tflash Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 F-22 woes are not so stealthy ... http://bit.ly/i5qJkK [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Meh, politics. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
egorter Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 meh politicians Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati Master sergeant shooter sergeant important person of sergeants extreme:gun_rifle:
EtherealN Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Ugh... That's what happens when people who don't understand the technology get to lord over it, Someone tell him that communication issues are inherent in the very things that made the plane desirable in the first place. :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
nscode Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Do you expect them to read technical data? Entity that should have informed them correctly is at fault here. Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
EtherealN Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Do you expect them to read technical data? Entity that should have informed them correctly is at fault here. Well, entity that should inform or entity that should understand. :P Always hard to figure out where the link broke. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Rhen Posted April 2, 2011 Posted April 2, 2011 "Entity" apparently shares the same level of knowledge as the "so-called" military aviation experts on this board. The F-22 has had the ability to communicate with other aircraft on the battlefield since 2008 during JEFX. This capability has been operational for a while with the Battlefield Airborne Communications Node aircraft, that have been deployed to Afghanistan (as a Global Hawk variant) and more distantly by a modified Bombardier BD-700 Bizjet. Until MADL comes out for the Raptor some time in 2015, barring budget cuts, it will have to rely on BACN to communicate with other platforms and remain stealthy. So all this talk about the Raptor being unable to share info with LINK-16 equipped aircraft is just plain false. 1
celticcoho Posted April 2, 2011 Posted April 2, 2011 "Entity" apparently shares the same level of knowledge as the "so-called" military aviation experts on this board. The F-22 has had the ability to communicate with other aircraft on the battlefield since 2008 during JEFX. This capability has been operational for a while with the Battlefield Airborne Communications Node aircraft, that have been deployed to Afghanistan (as a Global Hawk variant) and more distantly by a modified Bombardier BD-700 Bizjet. Until MADL comes out for the Raptor some time in 2015, barring budget cuts, it will have to rely on BACN to communicate with other platforms and remain stealthy. So all this talk about the Raptor being unable to share info with LINK-16 equipped aircraft is just plain false. Well,at least my Radioshack Scanner will be able to pick them UP!!!I truly Do not think They will make their Power Known to the Public???:doh: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Celticcoho (OriginFreedom) WIN 7 64 bit, I7975 at 3.6ghz,X58 Classified 3 Mobo, 6gb Corsair 2000 ram, 2 ea ATI 5870 Eyefinity 6 2gb's , 27" Ultra Sharp,(main view), 3 23"touch screens , Tm Warthog, Saitek Combat Pedals Track IR 5,:D JIM.:book:
RvETito Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 The oxygen problem seems to be going deeper. After the restriction to fly above 25k ft now the entire F-22 fleet is grounded till solution is found. http://edition.cnn.com/2011/US/05/05/raptors.grounded/index.html?hpt=T2 "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
Pyroflash Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Sucks, they should totally fix that. If you aim for the sky, you will never hit the ground.
tflash Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 Anyone knows whether F-22 are still grounded? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 Anyone knows whether F-22 are still grounded?F-22 did not show up for Barksdale 2011 air show a month ago. Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
tflash Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 Oepsie ... still grounded! http://www.waltonsun.com/news/highly-94385-newsherald-raptors-air.html Global air dominance doesn't reach the cockpit so it seems. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted June 12, 2011 Author Posted June 12, 2011 Bah why do they mention Libya at all? thats no scenario for F-22's. Mr kaddafi has no real airforce for 20+ years. .
nscode Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 G-2 would so kick F-22s ass :P Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
Teknetinium Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) :lol: No one has mastered plasma anything ... except maybe plasma incinerators. ;) As for the payment their people received, and the USSR 'keeping up' with anything? Their stuff was 10-20 years BEHIND when the Cold War ended. GG Soviet SAMs were not behind a day, actually when soviet had as worst economy, there were S-300s in service ;) Edited June 13, 2011 by Teknetinium 51st PVO Discord SATAC YouTube
mikoyan Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 I think that that is what happens when you buy an airplane before all the testing is finished. Military contracts should be handled differently. I believe that lockheed is working in too many contracts at the same time; tons of contracts placed into a sole firm; it doesn't seems right to me.
tflash Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Bah why do they mention Libya at all? thats no scenario for F-22's. Mr kaddafi has no real airforce for 20+ years. Indeed, why single out Libya? They could have mentioned all other conflicts and scenario's where the F-22 has proven to be irrelevant and / or absent. :D 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) ... Not to mention PAK-FA's, Su-27's, Su-30's ... :D ... or the fact that this article mentions the F-22 isn't the only aircraft being investigated for oxygen issues ... or that the article mentions that sand-downs like these aren't entirely uncommon. Don't worry, it'll still blow anything not an F-22 out of the sky, even if it has to stay at 25000 or under (which, incidentally, seems to indicate that they're not exactly standing down). Indeed, why single out Libya? They could have mentioned all other conflicts and scenario's where the F-22 has proven to be irrelevant and / or absent. :D Edited June 13, 2011 by GGTharos [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
mvsgas Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Aircraft being down is common. Is a safety thing. In most cases, has nothing to do with aircraft. more with safety. Specially aircraft as expensive as F-22. I know many different airframes that were grounded on the past and never make it to the news. This one made it to the news but, remember when the F-15 broke in mid air? Grounded right? Very few aircraft had problems, yet the whole fleet was grounded for a while. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Pilotasso Posted June 13, 2011 Author Posted June 13, 2011 Not to mention that many system accessories are not aircraft specific, they can be found in many aircraft. Pople often forget all about commonality of components. :) .
Vekkinho Posted June 13, 2011 Posted June 13, 2011 Someof the security issues mentioned here are never considered a problem with other (countries) airplanes. I remember in ex-Yugoslavia pilots reporting oxy problems (one MiG-21UM was lost in '86 due to pilot hipoxia) and no one was grounded pending investigation. Yes F-22 is expensive plane to fly around if you've got problems, F-22 pilots are too unique to sacrifice so staying below 25.000 is a must til problem gets fixed! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted June 13, 2011 Author Posted June 13, 2011 F-22's safety standars are the same for a simple A-10A. They dont change the rules because of "new toys". The difference you pointed out is not just the aircraft but reveals total difference in doctrines between different countries/military organizations. .
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