Interesting in Su-27SK?

[Red Hammer]

I have full data of Su-27SK, include Flight Manual.:smartass:

I wound like to cheap sale or maybe even give to ED with some small conditions.

Su-27SK is a later verson of Su-27, it use almost the same cockpit, but with multi-target attack ability and ground attack ability, And a better Radar.

It can also carry R-27EA and R-77. And it have a onbroad ECM system. of course it can carry 2 on the wing as well.

I may get F-18's full data later.

I just love SCO aircraft.:thumbup:

[ФрогФут]

Su-27SK is export variant of LO's Su-27S. So it can't carry R-77 and doesn't have onboard ECM.

And i think, everybody has it's flight manual, at least in russian.

[Maverick-90]

I have full data of Su-27SK, include Flight

Su-27SK is a later verson of Su-27 It can also carry R-27EA.

it can't cuz there is no R-27EA, it was never put into production ;)

[Alfa]

What ФрогФут said :)

 

The Su-27SK is the export version of the Su-27S we already have in Lock-on. There is no difference in capabilities what so ever - same radar and weapons.

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

[Cobra360]

It actually has a slightly downgraded radar and avionics but it has a higher MTOW because of it's reinforced landing gear, 33,000kg.

 

The Su-27SMK is the more capable version.

[Red Hammer]

How about the multi-Target system?

Lock on's Flanker can not do it, because it is the very first one.

[NAEMNIK]

:) Su-27SK Does not apply R-77

ЕМНИП :)

[Alfa]

How about the multi-Target system?

Lock on's Flanker can not do it, because it is the very first one.

 

The Su-27SK is the Su-27S with an added "K" in the designation to indicate that it is meant for export - it is the same aircraft with the same N001 radar, same weapons and thus the same combat capabilities :) .

 

I think you might be confusing it with the Su-27SM. The Su-27SM is an upgraded Su-27S with an upgraded version of the N001 radar(N001V) capable of engaging two targets simultaneously with R-77 missiles - it also has air-to-surface modes and support for guided A/G weaponry.

 

However, the Su-27SM also has other new systems and an entirely different cockpit layout with multiple colour LCDs ....and good luck finding information on those! :) .

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

[Alfa]

It actually has a slightly downgraded radar and avionics but it has a higher MTOW because of it's reinforced landing gear, 33,000kg.

 

Where did you hear that the Su-27SK should have a downgraded radar? - I doubt that is the case Cobra.

 

The Su-27SMK is the more capable version.

 

Yes - well except that export designation for the Su-27SM apparently has been changed from "Su-27SMK" to "Su-27SKM".....same thing though.

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

[Red Hammer]

Thanks for reply my forum. I'll see what I can do about Su-27SMK(J-11A).

Do you think if I find it, ED will willing to add it on?

I may also get F-18 manual, do you think ED will be interesting.

[SuperKungFu]

I'm sorry Red Hammer but i already told you over at the ubi forum, ED will not add the J-11A or the F-18. There is simply not enough time and Lock on ends with Black Shark. They don't even plan on making a new 3d model of flanker, let alone actually build a whole new version of it. Of course i would like to see it but its just not going to happen. And no one can build their own cockpit and add it into the game because we don't have the tools for it. Every new model has to go through ED first, and even if you give them a cockpit and a model, they probably can't make it into a flyable. Because they still need to do a lot more work on their side such as aircraft performance data...etc. And a manaual just can't provide that precise information. So don't be offended if you sent information to them and they can't build it. If you can find the info on the internet or somewhere, I'm pretty sure they have it too.

[britgliderpilot]

I'm sorry Red Hammer but i already told you over at the ubi forum, ED will not add the J-11A or the F-18. There is simply not enough time and Lock on ends with Black Shark. They don't even plan on making a new 3d model of flanker, let alone actually build a whole new version of it. Of course i would like to see it but its just not going to happen. And no one can build their own cockpit and add it into the game because we don't have the tools for it. Every new model has to go through ED first, and even if you give them a cockpit and a model, they probably can't make it into a flyable. Because they still need to do a lot more work on their side such as aircraft performance data...etc. And a manaual just can't provide that precise information. So don't be offended if you sent information to them and they can't build it. If you can find the info on the internet or somewhere, I'm pretty sure they have it too.

 

Yup, but two additional points:

 

ED have not accepted a new 3D model for the Flanker on the grounds that they want to build it themselves - so they are thinking about it.

 

ED have a manual for the F/A-18A now, so we're getting closer.

 

Performance data is one thing, and is rather more in the public domain than the important stuff about how the avionics and weapons systems work. In the USN, this is bundled with classified data (think AMRAAM performance data), and hence very, very difficult to get at.

 

 

The stuff about adding new aircraft is spot-on, though.

[Cobra360]

Where did you hear that the Su-27SK should have a downgraded radar? - I doubt that is the case Cobra.

 

 

 

Yes - well except that export designation for the Su-27SM apparently has been changed from "Su-27SMK" to "Su-27SKM".....same thing though.

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

 

I have two books by Yefim Gordon about the Su-27 and all sub variants, both books state that the SK is slightly downgraded for export (like the MiG-29 9-12B export version) but may be fitted with Western avionics at customer request. The only difference it the MTOW in the SK is higher at 33,000kg.

[Red Hammer]

What? ED already have F-18 manual now?

Tell me some thing they don't have it yet.

I'm a connector, I don't believe ED already have everything I have.

[Red Hammer]

By the way, the F-18 I have is a F/A-18E/F model

[GGTharos]

Ah, so you have the flight manual. Everyone has that one. ;)

[Dmut]

What? ED already have F-18 manual now?

Tell me some thing they don't have it yet.

I'm a connector, I don't believe ED already have everything I have.

ED has nearly all "available" manuals and even some "unavailable" ;)

If you came into something known as "dash 34" class FM, let us know :)

If you don't know about "dash 34 manuals" then don't worry, it's normal.

[Red Hammer]

I don't have something known as dash 34.

The most advance one I have is F-117 and F-23(It is a shame that I don't have F-22 and F-35)

[Olgerd]

What? ED already have F-18 manual now?

Tell me some thing they don't have it yet.

I'm a connector, I don't believe ED already have everything I have.

 

We have F-18A/B/C/D manuals. (Unclass stuff only of course).

[Olgerd]

The most advance one I have is F-117 and F-23...

 

Thanks mate, but we have them too.

[SuperKungFu]

you boys care to share any of those manuals, it would be a nice read :thumbup:

[Disso]

I have full data of Su-27SK, include Flight Manual.:smartass:

I wound like to cheap sale or maybe even give to ED with some small conditions.

 

 

I think he's trying to SELL them to us.

[SuperKungFu]

i mean I'm sure you can find these manuals on the internet so no need for a charge, I'm just kinda lazy to go look for them lol.

[GGTharos]

If you don't have any -34's Red Hammer, then forget it. Those are the top secret manuals required for operating those aircraft.

 

All you have is the same stuff that we can easily find on the net.

[Pilotasso]

Speaking of manuals, my brother has one about the Alpha jet (he trains in the airforce and soon will go for F-16's). Could it be usefull for tank killers? :)