Mustang Posted June 19, 2016 Posted June 19, 2016 Yea I'm getting the lines as well, the fps is fine though. I'm using a gtx980 Screenshot? I am struggling to find any lines, maybe cause i use an AMD card?
Bourrinopathe Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 Here's a screenshot from the Su-27 Freeflight Instant Action, on my rig (i5 3570K @ 4.3 GHz, ASUS GTX 970 OC Strix, 16 GB ram). Always above 60 FPS at this altitude (no mirrors) or above/in/below the clouds. I forced the AA transparency so it might be the reason for these artifacts (I didn't test without that setting). /// ВКБ: GF Pro MkII+MCG Pro/GF MkII+SCG L/Black Mamba MkIII/Gladiator/T-Rudder MkII | X-55 Rhino throttle/Saitek Throttle Quadrant | OpenTrack+UTC /// ZULU +4 /// /// "THE T3ASE": i9 9900K | 64 GB DDR4 | RTX 2080ti OC | 2 TB NVMe SSDs, 1 TB SATA SSD, 12 TB HDDs | Gigabyte DESIGNARE mobo ///
Enduro14 Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) Mustang it appears I fixed the problem on my end by forcing antialiasing transparency to on in the nvidia control panel will test further, it is a greater fps hit at 4K but will continue to tinker. These clouds are to amazing not to have . Ok upon further testing it seems that forcing smooth vsync in nvidia control panel is what gets rid of those terrain lines. I run sli so who knows but it's very nic now minus the fps hit of course. Edited June 20, 2016 by Enduro14 Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S
Enduro14 Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 So I've noticed with the pure stock new clouds it runs great for nvidia cards. Mustang is their by chance a version you have or can make that doesn't change any texture or shader stuff but just gives us the good cloud grouping like with your mod version? Aka the 1-8 settings of clouds actually having a big grouping difference. Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S
S-GERAT Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 Enduro, can you please attach an image of the options in Nvidia control panel and the AA level inside DCS menu ? I tried several options but still have the lines.. :cry:
Enduro14 Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 Enduro, can you please attach an image of the options in Nvidia control panel and the AA level inside DCS menu ? I tried several options but still have the lines.. :cry: So after all day of testing I found what got rid of the lines for me was forcing Smooth vsync in the Nvidia control panel. It's an option available if your running sli. It's the only way for me to get rid of lines. If you have sli and run smooth vsync make sure to turn off vsync in game. Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S
S-GERAT Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 So after all day of testing I found what got rid of the lines for me was forcing Smooth vsync in the Nvidia control panel. It's an option available if your running sli. It's the only way for me to get rid of lines. If you have sli and run smooth vsync make sure to turn off vsync in game. Ahmm, so is an option only available while using sli.. that's why I can't find it.. I'm going to investigate about it.. Thanks mate !:thumbup:
Mustang Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 This MOD available? Yes here https://www.dropbox.com/s/bwfdrpgi3nxikl6/Clouds%20experimental.zip?dl=0 also link is in my sig.
Mainstay Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 I see the lines through the clouds on a single GTX980TI. for me its the shape of mountains etc that have almost like glowing mountain lines etc.
Enduro14 Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 Also is it me it does the tgp and schval see straight through these clouds too? Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S
Mustang Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) I see the lines through the clouds on a single GTX980TI. for me its the shape of mountains etc that have almost like glowing mountain lines etc. This particular problem cannot be avoided i'm afraid, it's the direct affect the the cloud texture meeting the terrain (texture mask) it is particularly low res too which makes it look worse - if you set the cloud base higher than the terrain the problem won't be there. Also is it me it does the tgp and schval see straight through these clouds too? Yes this is incomplete part of the cloud coding by ED, also notice that there are no clouds seen in mirrors, all still work in progress (infact i hope that ED has ditched these clouds for something more superior) Edited June 20, 2016 by Mustang
Mainstay Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 Y thanks for the reply. Im gonna use stck again and i hope ED will bring een better clouds :)
Bourrinopathe Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 At least it gives a great idea about how interesting the volumetric clouds could be. I really hope ED will come up with something including different cloud formations depending on a weather system. I'd love to spot cumulonimbus clouds and immediately think "trouble" (=fun). :D /// ВКБ: GF Pro MkII+MCG Pro/GF MkII+SCG L/Black Mamba MkIII/Gladiator/T-Rudder MkII | X-55 Rhino throttle/Saitek Throttle Quadrant | OpenTrack+UTC /// ZULU +4 /// /// "THE T3ASE": i9 9900K | 64 GB DDR4 | RTX 2080ti OC | 2 TB NVMe SSDs, 1 TB SATA SSD, 12 TB HDDs | Gigabyte DESIGNARE mobo ///
Mustang Posted June 28, 2016 Posted June 28, 2016 I have created a new package with different patterns and sizes of the clouds, feel free to try out :) https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1mv3tx2vt1g89p/Clouds%20experimental%20alternate%20patterns.zip?dl=0 1
REDEYE_CVW-66 Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 Tested. Yet again, great progress. The cloud formations look great, the performance is excellent, and you seem to have gotten rid of the "rivers glaring through" the clouds as well. Superb! The only remaining thing now is the jagginess around aircraft edges when having the clouds as background (That is for my gtx 970) will upload screens tomorrow:) Great work!
Enduro14 Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 Looks amazing just huge fps hit at 4K all the low resolutions it runs fine Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S
Mustang Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 Looks amazing just huge fps hit at 4K all the low resolutions it runs fine Something you could try at 4k: in clouds.lua you have the ability to control the amount of downsampling the clouds use, maybe you could try raising this amount so the framerate stabilizes? For example: { --ultra {4, 0, 1, 2, 400000.0, 200000.0}, {4, 2, 0, 0, 25000.0, 25000.0} both the numbers 4 represent the times the cloud textures are downsampled, try using 6 or 8 and see if it helps like this { --ultra {8, 0, 1, 2, 400000.0, 200000.0}, {8, 2, 0, 0, 25000.0, 25000.0}
Enduro14 Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) Awesome sauce will try!! Helped with fps setting all low to ultra to 8. But here is a pic of the mountains bleeding through. Edited June 29, 2016 by Enduro14 Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S
NRG-Vampire Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 feel free to try out :) clouds look nice :thumbup: hey Mustang, is that your tester version with the screenshot of the visible electric power lines ? or the current version with fixed visibility of the line (material) ? or older version ? TY
Mustang Posted June 29, 2016 Posted June 29, 2016 clouds look nice :thumbup: hey Mustang, is that your tester version with the screenshot of the visible electric power lines ? or the current version with fixed visibility of the line (material) ? or older version ? TY Hi, the pics were taken using version 1.5.3 release so the powerlines are showing correctly.
Pâte Posted July 8, 2016 Posted July 8, 2016 Hi Mustang. You made an amazing job ! :o This is what i call nice cloud. I have just a little question, do you think that it's so possible to create for DCS cloud like cumulobimbus ? This is the one that really miss in our simulator. (not asking you to do them, just asking if you think this cloud are possible to code into DCS) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Enduro14 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 Quick update Mustang I recently got a gtx 1080 and one of the faster ones at that. These clouds now are standard issue for me I made tweak as above but set it to 6 and have constant locked 60fps at 4K now. Man flying down through those clouds for an attack adds an all new awesomeness to the sim. I'm more than happy to test more tweaks you make! Intel 8700k @5ghz, 32gb ram, 1080ti, Rift S
bouncerj21 Posted July 11, 2016 Posted July 11, 2016 Hi All I'm not sure if this helps at all but I have a 980Ti and am suffering with the mountains lines bleeding through the clouds and also white lines around the aircraft same as Enduro14. What I have found is if I go into the settings and change the Shadow settings to something different from when I started DCS all of the lines go away and I am left with beautiful clouds. I can then change the Shadow Options to anything I want and do not suffer with any lines. However when I restart DCS all the lines come back and I have to repeat as above. Hope that helps
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