Lt.Snake Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 (edited) In Mission 2 after I started to taxi behind the Follow Me Car (before the C-130 crash), my Wingman (dash 3) crashed in to his follow me car, resulting into him getting stuck on the wreckage. At this point wingman -2 had already merged into the taxiway right in front of my follow me car. After the Hercules crashes on final and the Mission Commander overrules the airport authorities, we are supposed to continue taxiing to the active runway. However, the wingman in front of me wouldn't move. Having nowhere to go, I had to try to squeeze past my follow me and my wingman. I got past the car just fine but got stuck on the Hawg, which promptly exploded ending the mission for me as well. Has anybody else had similar problems? Also, I realize that scoring is nessecary and motivating part of this campaign, but not beeing able to simply restart the flight without being bounced back to the previous mission is really frustrating given the circumstances. Edited September 14, 2016 by BIGNEWY TITLE [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] \\\S.D. Plissken... American, Lieutenant: Special Forces Unit "Black Light". Two Purple Hearts, Leningrad and Siberia. Youngest man to be decorated by the President. Then you robbed the Federal Reserve Depository... life sentence, New York maximum security penitentary. \\\My Specs ASUS Maximus IX Code / i7 7700K / 32GB DDR4@3600MHz / MSI GeForce 1080Ti / Samsung M.2 960 EVO / ACER PREDATOR X34A / TM Warthog / MFG Crosswind Pedals / TIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheonix0869 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I waited until the "open mic" message from the crash finished before taxing. I don't think you get clearance before that, so I feel like your wing man crashed into a car that was scripted to do something else (i.e. respond to the crash or block the runway for emergency vehicles.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt.Snake Posted September 10, 2016 Author Share Posted September 10, 2016 After the detainee flight had landed, I got clearance and the Follow-Me started to pull ahead. So I started to taxi. This is when -3 crashed into the car. After that the whole C-130 situation happens. Once this was finished ("open mic" message), we got ordered back to the parking spots, but the Baawwss (Whiplash-1) overruled the Base authorities, who promptly gave us clearance to continue to taxi, but the above described disaster ensued. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] \\\S.D. Plissken... American, Lieutenant: Special Forces Unit "Black Light". Two Purple Hearts, Leningrad and Siberia. Youngest man to be decorated by the President. Then you robbed the Federal Reserve Depository... life sentence, New York maximum security penitentary. \\\My Specs ASUS Maximus IX Code / i7 7700K / 32GB DDR4@3600MHz / MSI GeForce 1080Ti / Samsung M.2 960 EVO / ACER PREDATOR X34A / TM Warthog / MFG Crosswind Pedals / TIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1330 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I had a lot of AI glitches in Mission 2 as well, just not the same ones. I couldn't get the AI to engage anything for the life of me. Usually I have no problem getting them to engage targets at my SPI, but no such luck today. They respond but then just fly away. Luckily the heavy loadout allowed me to handle it all. Dash 3 randomly crashed at some point early in the mission, no "ejecting" call or anything, just dead. Didn't even notice until a bit later when I didn't see him behind me. Dash 2 went on a sabbatical, flying back to Kutaisi and orbiting there during the rescue of the pilot. Couldn't get him to rejoin or engage, no action whatsoever. He responded to all my commands, so my radios were set right - just didn't do anything. And the same bug as mission 1 with dash 2 not leaving the runway. I had already shut down so I didn't try the change parking spots trick. I think these are bugs in DCS, rather than the campaign. All this aside, fun mission! Ryzen 7 5800X3D / Asus Crosshair VI Hero X370 / Corsair H110i / Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT / 32Gb G.Skill TridentZ 3200 / Samsung 980 Pro M.2 / Virpil Warbrd base + VFX and TM grips / Virpil CM3 Throttle / Saitek Pro Combat pedals / Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergamo Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Passed mission one and for some reasons mission 2 was not completed trigger did not work I guess...., but when trying to restart the mission..., the all campaign start from mission 1 again!!! Can you guys fix it? Same problem was with campaign from gazelle....., I mean it should not be so difficult especially if it is not the first time!.., next time I will wait before purchasing another campaigns! The all experience is frustrating and not worthy..., it is a shame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandingCow Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 I have footage of a bug with the follow me... since one of the A-10s taxied half way out the follow me car couldn't move, so I had to go around them. There was also a humvee that somehow blew up on the taxiway so when the A-10s returned home one got stuck on it. - 1 hour 50 min in. 5900X - 32 GB 3600 RAM - 1080TI My Twitch Channel ~Moo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger79 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 I have footage of a bug with the follow me... since one of the A-10s taxied half way out the follow me car couldn't move, so I had to go around them. There was also a humvee that somehow blew up on the taxiway so when the A-10s returned home one got stuck on it. - 1 hour 50 min in. Hey Standing Cow, the issue is the ai wingman are suppose to start next to you on the NW apron at mission start, for some reason they are starting elsewhere and thus the major problems. I have reported the issue and hoping for a quick fix soon. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Ranger79 OEF/OIF Veteran YouTube Channel Twitch Channel Mods, Missions, & Tutorials: Operation Piercing Fury Campaign Ranger79's Object Pack ISIS CrisIS Campaign Mission Editing Video Series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger79 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 I had a lot of AI glitches in Mission 2 as well, just not the same ones. I couldn't get the AI to engage anything for the life of me. Usually I have no problem getting them to engage targets at my SPI, but no such luck today. They respond but then just fly away. Luckily the heavy loadout allowed me to handle it all. Dash 3 randomly crashed at some point early in the mission, no "ejecting" call or anything, just dead. Didn't even notice until a bit later when I didn't see him behind me. Dash 2 went on a sabbatical, flying back to Kutaisi and orbiting there during the rescue of the pilot. Couldn't get him to rejoin or engage, no action whatsoever. He responded to all my commands, so my radios were set right - just didn't do anything. And the same bug as mission 1 with dash 2 not leaving the runway. I had already shut down so I didn't try the change parking spots trick. I think these are bugs in DCS, rather than the campaign. All this aside, fun mission! Sandman, I would recommend turning easy radio off in your options if you haven't already done so. Make sure you are transmitting on UHF and freq 251.000 to your flight and they should respond accordingly. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Ranger79 OEF/OIF Veteran YouTube Channel Twitch Channel Mods, Missions, & Tutorials: Operation Piercing Fury Campaign Ranger79's Object Pack ISIS CrisIS Campaign Mission Editing Video Series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger79 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 In Mission 2 after I started to taxi behind the Follow Me Car (before the C-130 crash), my Wingman (dash 3) crashed in to his follow me car, resulting into him getting stuck on the wreckage. At this point wingman -2 had already merged into the taxiway right in front of my follow me car. After the Hercules crashes on final and the Mission Commander overrules the airport authorities, we are supposed to continue taxiing to the active runway. However, the wingman in front of me wouldn't move. Having nowhere to go, I had to try to squeeze past my follow me and my wingman. I got past the car just fine but got stuck on the Hawg, which promptly exploded ending the mission for me as well. Has anybody else had similar problems? Also, I realize that scoring is nessecary and motivating part of this campaign, but not beeing able to simply restart the flight without being bounced back to the previous mission is really frustrating given the circumstances. LT. Snake, Thank you for the information. There is an issue with the starting position of the AI wingman causing the traffic jam, it has been reported and hopefully resolved soon. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Ranger79 OEF/OIF Veteran YouTube Channel Twitch Channel Mods, Missions, & Tutorials: Operation Piercing Fury Campaign Ranger79's Object Pack ISIS CrisIS Campaign Mission Editing Video Series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiddx Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 On my first try of the mission one of the wingmen spawned at my supposed parking spot behind the follow me, so my plane got moved to spot 01 in a completely different area of the airfield. When moving they got stuck at the taxiway intersection so I aborted the mission. On my next try (after redoing mission 1) everything went well - apart from 2 randomly CFITing later in the mission. What does the I in AI stand for again? ^^ Specs: i9 10900K @ 5.1 GHz, EVGA GTX 1080Ti, MSI Z490 MEG Godlike, 32GB DDR4 @ 3600, Win 10, Samsung S34E790C, Vive, TIR5, 10cm extended Warthog on WarBRD, Crosswinds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 11, 2016 ED Team Share Posted September 11, 2016 I have put a report in about the AI on mission 2, you can see in the editor the wingmen are in the wrong location. I am sure it will get put right. It is strange because when I tested mission 2 I had no problems Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 11, 2016 ED Team Share Posted September 11, 2016 (edited) work around Do not move your A-10c at all until the follow me car moves to the end of the runway, this will ensure your flight will be behind you. Edited September 11, 2016 by BIGNEWY Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt.Snake Posted September 11, 2016 Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 It's good to know, that the issue is being looked into. Thanks for that. Also, thank you for the workaround, Big Newy. :thumbup: Concerning being bumped back to the campaign start: I realize that it adds to the challenge. However, I like the "Maple Flag" approach better. You start every mission with a score of 50. For campaign progression a minimum score of 75 is required. Of course if you really mess up (you die, blue on blue, whatever), your score goes down and you go back to the previous mission. But if you just have to abort a mission i.e. for "domestic reasons" :music_whistling:or the situation that prompted me to open this thread, you still get to keep your score of 50 and can refly the mission. Much less frustrating. Just my 2 cents. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] \\\S.D. Plissken... American, Lieutenant: Special Forces Unit "Black Light". Two Purple Hearts, Leningrad and Siberia. Youngest man to be decorated by the President. Then you robbed the Federal Reserve Depository... life sentence, New York maximum security penitentary. \\\My Specs ASUS Maximus IX Code / i7 7700K / 32GB DDR4@3600MHz / MSI GeForce 1080Ti / Samsung M.2 960 EVO / ACER PREDATOR X34A / TM Warthog / MFG Crosswind Pedals / TIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gliptal Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 It's good to know, that the issue is being looked into. Thanks for that. Also, thank you for the workaround, Big Newy. :thumbup: Concerning being bumped back to the campaign start: I realize that it adds to the challenge. However, I like the "Maple Flag" approach better. You start every mission with a score of 50. For campaign progression a minimum score of 75 is required. Of course if you really mess up (you die, blue on blue, whatever), your score goes down and you go back to the previous mission. But if you just have to abort a mission i.e. for "domestic reasons" :music_whistling:or the situation that prompted me to open this thread, you still get to keep your score of 50 and can refly the mission. Much less frustrating. Just my 2 cents.Yeah we're discussing about it here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=173852 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintifaxl Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Awesome mission and strange enough I encountered not a single taxi bug and my AI wingmen were very useful in taking out targets - DCS heaven!!! Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 13, 2016 ED Team Share Posted September 13, 2016 Awesome mission and strange enough I encountered not a single taxi bug and my AI wingmen were very useful in taking out targets - DCS heaven!!! Same for me the first time I tested this mission, no bug at all, I think I got lucky and waited before taxing, a fluke lol Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will- Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 If wait there is no issues. And you talk to your wingmen on UHF. Thanks to ranger joining my stream and the help. Intel i9-9900K 32GB DDR4, RTX 2080tiftw3, Windows 10, 1tb 970 M2, TM Warthog, 4k 144hz HDR g-sync. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 14, 2016 ED Team Share Posted September 14, 2016 1.5.4.56500.155 hotfix. "Operation Piercing Fury" campaign: Second mission, player parking position changed, traffic jam at the spawn fixed. fixed :) Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt.Snake Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Very nice! Thanks a lot! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] \\\S.D. Plissken... American, Lieutenant: Special Forces Unit "Black Light". Two Purple Hearts, Leningrad and Siberia. Youngest man to be decorated by the President. Then you robbed the Federal Reserve Depository... life sentence, New York maximum security penitentary. \\\My Specs ASUS Maximus IX Code / i7 7700K / 32GB DDR4@3600MHz / MSI GeForce 1080Ti / Samsung M.2 960 EVO / ACER PREDATOR X34A / TM Warthog / MFG Crosswind Pedals / TIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger79 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Guys, I am going through the campaign and changing the scoring system so you wont go back a mission if you fail. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Ranger79 OEF/OIF Veteran YouTube Channel Twitch Channel Mods, Missions, & Tutorials: Operation Piercing Fury Campaign Ranger79's Object Pack ISIS CrisIS Campaign Mission Editing Video Series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt.Snake Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 Thank you for being so responsive and openminded for suggestions. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] \\\S.D. Plissken... American, Lieutenant: Special Forces Unit "Black Light". Two Purple Hearts, Leningrad and Siberia. Youngest man to be decorated by the President. Then you robbed the Federal Reserve Depository... life sentence, New York maximum security penitentary. \\\My Specs ASUS Maximus IX Code / i7 7700K / 32GB DDR4@3600MHz / MSI GeForce 1080Ti / Samsung M.2 960 EVO / ACER PREDATOR X34A / TM Warthog / MFG Crosswind Pedals / TIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger79 Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Thank you for being so responsive and openminded for suggestions. No problem, revamped scoring system for campaign submitted to ED, with a few other fixes (including Mission 5). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Ranger79 OEF/OIF Veteran YouTube Channel Twitch Channel Mods, Missions, & Tutorials: Operation Piercing Fury Campaign Ranger79's Object Pack ISIS CrisIS Campaign Mission Editing Video Series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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