(Rant) Work Problems

[iVVChewy9141VVi]

Well this is getting ridiculous. My Supervisor is very much a idiot and makes comments that are very hurtful and border line Sexual Harassment and People who don't like women. He is very idiotic.

 

I was offered another job for 2 grand less and it is civil service. But the other place everyone else treats me amazing. This guy does not know how to fix anything. It falls on me and he makes 75 grand while I make nothing.

 

Sorry if I cant post this here

[sobek]

How big is your company? Don't you have any company sanctioned ways to report sexual harassment or undue behavior?

[cichlidfan]

How big is your company? Don't you have any company sanctioned ways to report sexual harassment or undue behavior?

 

Indeed. Though jumping ship might be a good choice, please avail yourself of any internal methods for dealing with a manager like that.

[sobek]

I always try to be cautious not to suffer from 'grass is greener on the other side' syndrome.

 

Sometimes things are indeed so bad that it's wise to leave, or maybe the change that is needed is out of one's own control, but if the problem is just with one person, it might be possible to work things out instead of starting somewhere else from scratch.

 

Btw., since the stackexchange network of sites is still kind of unknown out of programmer circles, i'd like to direct you to http://workplace.stackexchange.com/

 

It is a forum made exactly for these kinds of questions. This is not to say that we can't discuss it here (i think?).

Edited September 16, 2016 by sobek

[cichlidfan]

I always try to be cautious not to suffer from 'grass is greener on the other side' syndrome.

 

Also good advice.

 

In my primary career, I actually only ever worked for three different companies in thirty years. Both job changes came about due to opportunities that were too good to pass up.

 

There are almost always issues with various people/situations that you work with but there is much to be said for dealing with the devil that you know rather than the one you don't.

 

I actually bought a house very close to my brother's because the house was great and I already knew which neighbors were idiots. :D

[sobek]

In my primary career, I actually only ever worked for three different companies in thirty years. Both job changes came about due to opportunities that were too good to pass up.

 

I'm off on a tangent here, but we're really children of different times, i guess. Going into year 5 i'm already on my second job, and if opportunity arises to work closer to my original field, i expect to switch again after i finish my education sometime next year.

 

There are almost always issues with various people/situations that you work with but there is much to be said for dealing with the devil that you know rather than the one you don't.

 

Exactly.

 

If you're interviewing for a job, people aren't going to be keen to bombard you with information about personal conflicts going on in the company (well, if they do, quietly get up and leave as fast as you can ;)).

 

Judging the atmosphere in a team from a job interview visit is *really* hard bordering impossible, so switching jobs is always a jump into cold water (unless you have an inside man you know and trust).

 

I actually bought a house very close to my brother's because the house was great and I already knew which neighbors were idiots. :D

 

:megalol:

[cichlidfan]

I'm off on a tangent here, but we're really children of different times, i guess. Going into year 5 i'm already on my second job, and if opportunity arises to work closer to my original field, i expect to switch again after i finish my education sometime next year.

 

Not so much a matter of different times than different situations. I started my working life as a mechanical engineer and ended up as an IT geek by luck. Back when I went to college CS programs really did not exist but a case of being in the right place at the right time allowed me to take a fork in the road that I never expected when I was planning my career path.

 

Besides, when you are young the risks inherent in job hopping are far less than the advantages to be had.

 

EDIT: Over 10 years working for an OEM, specialty, computer graphics company gave me opportunities I would have been hard pressed to find elsewhere. When you have been around longer than many of your superiors it gives you some advantages that can be hard to come by.

Edited September 16, 2016 by cichlidfan

[Pilotasso]

I had good colleagues being promoted to supervisors and they changed drastically in terms of behaviour. Where I trusted them before, they are now:

 

- hinting at raises before the semester is up as a form of pressure to achieve objectives, and then they do not materialise

- promoting new graduates above the rest of the team because they are relatives to VIP's

- the urgency creep that causes disorganization on the agenda

- Feeds unreliable info out of ignorance or inexperience

- compromises himself with over optimistic delivery dates with his superiors and charges me responsible without previously discussing it

- Every once a while there goes the threat of firing me or lower the performance evaluation

- Force projects that are unviable or counterproductive that will only cause more work and lower efficiency

- Treat their subordinates like garbage as a form of asserting himself

- Excuses himself at the expense of the team for image promotion purposes

 

This is commonplace practice in the current times, long are gone the times of respect at workplace, stability and well paid jobs (well for most anyway), predictable career paths or any sort of rules for progression (when they exist they often are left on paper only, nor the human resources have your best interests at heart, or the company's).

 

This is because most people in leadership roles always try to please their superiors first, show projects are ongoing even if they are downgrades and/or a repeat of abandoned methodologies.

Edited September 18, 2016 by Pilotasso

[iVVChewy9141VVi]

Thanks Everyone. Its really tough and for a person that seems to treat people like shit I feel like he is pushing me out and my GM does not want me to go.

[kolga]

I'll be praying for you!

[tintifaxl]

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This is because most people in leadership roles always try to please their superiors first, show projects are ongoing even if they are downgrades and/or a repeat of abandoned methodologies.

 

Couldn't have summoned it up better myself. :thumbup:

 

And it not only applies to the promoted colleagues.

[Braeden108]

Think you could use a little GAU stress relief.

 

Good luck out there

[The Black Swan]

I'll pray for you.

I agree with what some others have said, I'd try to see what you can do about the current situation first, and then move on if you can't change anything and would prefer better treatment.

[iVVChewy9141VVi]

Well General Manager who took my side ended up firing him when he got mad at her for something stupid. Told her "Are you getting laid enough". Nice Way to put yourself on a long vacation. Not going to look good if he puts on his resume that he worked there for 5 months. Also if he uses them and they call HR they can disclose the Sexual Harassment.

 

Some people in this world are just so horrible to people.

[sobek]

Problems that sort themselves out are my favorite kind of problems. :)

 

Glad everything worked out for you.

[ebabil]

good to hear this.

some people are really "nozzle holes" in work environment.

[Pilotasso]

Problems that sort themselves out are my favorite kind of problems. :)

 

Glad everything worked out for you.

 

That's karma.

 

I had an idiot manager who wanted me fired, he was fired instead, though I had to wait 2 painful years between the 2 events.

[cichlidfan]

Problems that sort themselves out are my favorite kind of problems. :)

 

Glad everything worked out for you.

 

Agreed on both points.

 

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

[agrasyuk]

There are always two sides and different perspectives. We heard OP's very critical assessment, we will never hear the other side performance assessment of OP.

At any rate , horrible" would be working at Chinese sweatshop. Chance are things are not that bad in NY

[sobek]

The performance of the OP is of no significance. Even if he was severely underperforming, that would have been no excuse for the supervisor to lose his tact.

[iVVChewy9141VVi]

Well another good thing just happened. Got a State Job and State Pension with a College. Even thought its a cleaners job. I could move to maintainer which I have a great background with. Also after 20 years I can retire with full pension and health insurance.

 

When One door closes or another one opens.

[cichlidfan]

The post retirement benefits are worth quite a lot. I am retired, with a home made pension, and I spend more than $6k a year on health insurance.

[Pilotasso]

Jesus, that's expensive (health). Here we have insurance but that serves only for discounts, on the other hand its not terribly expensive if you need assistance because it's also partially paid by the social security which comes from taxation. For example, my last dentist bill was 60€ with insurance, without, it would be 90€ on my own (the company pays the insurance). The Government pays your pension (not the company) based on off-salary taxation history (currently IRS 19%+11% for social security, BTW 23% VAT off products).

We have a lunch break of 50 mins and some companies pay a monthly extra so you can eat outside its infrastructures, and/or if you live far away (for commuting costs).

But then every other benefits and salary sucks. Country wide average is about 700€. The Re-employment rate is close to zero, and the market currently works mostly on personal contacts, and career progression is rare. This is why everyone is so afraid, plus there's the IMF bailout thing going on threatening make all this worse. Not all this is bad but there you have it.

Edited September 24, 2016 by Pilotasso