Hawkeye60 Posted September 25, 2016 Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) I could not wait to post here about my home made cyclic flying experience. I will post in the input/output forum all the details in the coming days. First off, The height of my Warthog, from top of base to top of stick is about 12 inches. This with a short home made extension. The height of the cyclic is 30 inches. It currently is using pots for the axes. So, I took my first flight in VR, using the cyclic in the Gazelle tonight. I set the joystick to 100% saturation and 0 curve. 2-3% dead zone. Took off from runway and tried to hover in a 10 foot box just off the ground. Now, I always had trouble with this in the Gazelle, (much less so in other helicopters) Tonight, after getting used to the different "feel" of the controls, It is like flying a whole new Gazelle! I can hover so much easier, change from forward flight to hover easier and landing has become fun not Terrifying!:D Tried all sorts of take off and landings and didn't break the helicopter once!:music_whistling: The difference is amazing! Flew the Huey and could hover almost too easy. WOW. I will post pics and a breakdown of how I made the cyclic soon. Still have a few issues to work out. I made it real inexpensive. Almost the best part! Also have a collective 75% built. Coming soon. Any one else flying with "real" controls? Thoughts? Suggestions? Stay tuned..... Update, see here for info and photos https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=174632 Edited September 25, 2016 by Hawkeye60 Update 1 "Yeah, and though I work in the valley of Death, I will fear no Evil. For where there is one, there is always three. I preparest my aircraft to receive the Iron that will be delivered in the presence of my enemies. Thy ALCM and JDAM they comfort me. Power was given unto the aircrew to make peace upon the world by way of the sword. And when the call went out, Behold the "Sword of Stealth". And his name was Death. And Hell followed him. For the day of wrath has come and no mercy shall be given."
BronzeYardNo11 Posted September 25, 2016 Posted September 25, 2016 why 3% deadzone? ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give OH-6 ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Hawkeye60 Posted September 25, 2016 Author Posted September 25, 2016 why 3% deadzone?Only to remove any pot issue. I am using the base of a Thrustmaster pro flight control system. Must be 20 years old! (I knew I kept it for some reason!) I plan on updating to hall sensors in the future. "Yeah, and though I work in the valley of Death, I will fear no Evil. For where there is one, there is always three. I preparest my aircraft to receive the Iron that will be delivered in the presence of my enemies. Thy ALCM and JDAM they comfort me. Power was given unto the aircrew to make peace upon the world by way of the sword. And when the call went out, Behold the "Sword of Stealth". And his name was Death. And Hell followed him. For the day of wrath has come and no mercy shall be given."
Cibit Posted September 25, 2016 Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) I use a 15cm extension on my warthog stick with the spring mod and a home made collective using an old X52 throttle unit and an aluminium walking stick My flying in the gazelle went from passable to good immediately, I barely move the stick in flight the difference is chalk and cheese from stock stick to extension:) Pics here https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2854711&postcount=45 Edited September 25, 2016 by Cibit i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB
Hawkeye60 Posted September 25, 2016 Author Posted September 25, 2016 Great job! Mine does not look as nice, but works perfectly. My flying in the gazelle went from passable to good immediately, I barely move the stick in flight the difference is chalk and cheese from stock stick to extensionI agree, the difference is striking! It's like I just finished 30 hours of flight training overnight! While I slept!:D Good stuff! "Yeah, and though I work in the valley of Death, I will fear no Evil. For where there is one, there is always three. I preparest my aircraft to receive the Iron that will be delivered in the presence of my enemies. Thy ALCM and JDAM they comfort me. Power was given unto the aircrew to make peace upon the world by way of the sword. And when the call went out, Behold the "Sword of Stealth". And his name was Death. And Hell followed him. For the day of wrath has come and no mercy shall be given."
trigen Posted January 5, 2017 Posted January 5, 2017 What with the extension is night and day ye but the throw is just way to big, had to set mine to 60% sat to get close to the in game one. It's actually not a bad thing to have a tiny dead zone on this one as the autopilot will right itself and fly level when you keep it centered. I had a lot of trouble with this on my ffb2 mod with no dz whatsoever (pots connected to Bodnar board) so I fly with a 31cm extension on the warthog for this one. Feels much better 1080 ti, i7700k 5ghz, 16gb 3600 cl14 ddr4 oc
Hawkeye60 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Posted January 5, 2017 I read a post from a real Gazelle pilot (Rotorhead11) who stated that he uses two fingers on the cyclic to control the helicopter. He makes very small movements. Says he flew the same way in the real Gazelle. With the full height cyclic I find the same. I can never go back to the short Warthog stick! Thanks for posting Hawkeye "Yeah, and though I work in the valley of Death, I will fear no Evil. For where there is one, there is always three. I preparest my aircraft to receive the Iron that will be delivered in the presence of my enemies. Thy ALCM and JDAM they comfort me. Power was given unto the aircrew to make peace upon the world by way of the sword. And when the call went out, Behold the "Sword of Stealth". And his name was Death. And Hell followed him. For the day of wrath has come and no mercy shall be given."
borchi_2b Posted January 7, 2017 Posted January 7, 2017 3% deadzone gives you the impression of a mechanical delay which hapens in real helicopters. http://www.polychop-sims.com
Rogue Trooper Posted January 14, 2017 Posted January 14, 2017 (edited) I use a 15cm extension on my warthog stick with the spring mod and a home made collective using an old X52 throttle unit and an aluminium walking stick My flying in the gazelle went from passable to good immediately, I barely move the stick in flight the difference is chalk and cheese from stock stick to extension:) Pics here https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2854711&postcount=45 What is the spring mod for the warthog Cibit? This is something I have thought about for a while. My next project is attached below. A Lynx collective with A-frame, I cannot wait to get a proper collective. Edited January 14, 2017 by Rogue Trooper HP G2 Reverb (Needs upgrading), Windows 10 VR settings: IPD is 64.5mm, High image quality, G2 reset to 60Hz refresh rate. set to OpenXR, but Open XR tool kit disabled. DCS: Pixel Density 1.0, Forced IPD at 55 (perceived world size), DLSS setting is quality at 1.0. VR Driver system: I9-9900KS 5Ghz CPU. XI Hero motherboard and RTX 3090 graphics card, 64 gigs Ram, No OC... Everything needs upgrading in this system!. Vaicom user and what a superb freebie it is! Virpil Mongoose T50M3 base & Mongoose CM2 Grip (not set for dead stick), Virpil TCS collective with counterbalance kit (woof woof). Virpil Apache Grip (OMG). MFG pedals with damper upgrade. Total controls Apache MPDs set to virtual Reality height. Simshaker Jet Pro vibration seat.. Uses data from DCS not sound... goodbye VRS.
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