harf4ng Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 Hi, Anybody tried those new thrustmaster pedals, and tell me how good (or bad) they are? I know they are plastic. Early 2016 I ordered MFG crosswind pedals, but with a note saying I'm waiting the combat plates before I'll buy them. Still waiting, as the combat plates are not ready yet... Sure, I could wait a bit more, but the thing is, I'm considering going the FSSB3 route sooner or later, and this costs money (450$ + 20% VAT for france + shipping for the base). I'm even considering the dual FSSB3 for star citizen, for instance, which will cost even more money... though I never tried a force sensitive stick before, unsure how it is... Though, wondering if I should drop my idea of the MFG, and get the thrustmaster one instead, if they are good enough, as they are cheaper and it will help me sparing money for FSSB3. Thanks Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat.
cichlidfan Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 It makes no sense to spend a small fortune on the sticks and then use crap rudder pedals. I haven't used them but based on reviews, here and elsewhere, I would not do it. This seems especially true if you won't by the MFG's without the 'combat' plates. The TM pedals have similar footplates to the TM pedals so why buy them when you really want quality. It is, of course, your choice of where to put your money but I would be getting better pedals before buying a second FSSB3, which you are not even sure that you will like using. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
harf4ng Posted October 30, 2016 Author Posted October 30, 2016 In fact I still don't have a first FSSB3, as I should spare 580 € for this ;) But ok, if they are crap, I'll not do this ^^ But you're wrong about the plates of the thrustmaster, as you could remove the half of the pedal and convert them in combat style. But yes I guess I'll continue waiting for my MFG ;) For now I have no pedal at all, which is a pain and prevent me from flying in DCS well ^^ Hope those combat plates will not be out in 6 months ;) Thanks for the advice Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat.
harf4ng Posted October 30, 2016 Author Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) Never heard about those. Have a link? Ok, I found some links, and a mail, I sent him a mail to have more infos. Though, according to the photo, seems those kind of pedals move on a rotation basis more than a push/pull but I may be wrong. Thanks for the info, now the MFG has another competitor in my mind. The slaw are too expensive, but the MFG and slaw seems to be in my price range Edited October 30, 2016 by harf4ng Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat.
Sokol1_br Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 (edited) Though, according to the photo, seems those kind of pedals move on a rotation basis more than a push/pull but I may be wrong. No, the pedal movement is based on parallelogram, like most of other pedals, not in arc (e.g. A6M Zeke pedals), just happen the second bar of parallelogram in this model is inside the the first bar. The foot position/angle don't change. Is in this way to look as Kamov heli pedals. Anyway BRD-F2 has a model with more conventional frame (damper installation optional, by user): http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/uploads/monthly_08_2016/post-842-0-18756100-1472634419.jpg Can change foot rest lateral inclination if want: http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/uploads/monthly_08_2016/post-842-0-16317500-1472637015.jpg http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/uploads/monthly_08_2016/post-842-0-44513200-1472635532.jpg Of course the extra metal cost more. :) Edited October 31, 2016 by Sokol1_br
harf4ng Posted October 30, 2016 Author Posted October 30, 2016 Those pedals seem fine. Now waiting for him to answer my mail for cost, shipping, payment, things like that ^^ Though I'm a bit worried about customs, as russia is not in european union... Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat.
Sporg Posted October 30, 2016 Posted October 30, 2016 I agree with the others, don't get a set of crap pedals, especially if you want so much quality that you are considering FSSB3. I had Saitek Combat rudder pedals before, but while they were decent, after changing to Slaw device full-metal pedals with contactless sensors, there is simply no comparison at all. Besides, after what I read on the new Thrustmaster pedals, they develop terrible sticktion after short time use, making them useless for precision use. About the FSSB3, maybe you should consider if you want pressure sensitive sticks as used in F-16 and Airbus commercial aircraft, or if you should look for cam-based joysticks like Baur and VKB make them, and which are used as, or mimics, sticks in other aircraft? For myself I was surprised to find that the stick in the upcoming SAAB AJS-37 Viggen was actually just fitted with a basic cam mechanism to provide proper stick force feedback to the pilot. :) System specs: Gigabyte Aorus Master, i7 9700K@std, GTX 1080TI OC, 32 GB 3000 MHz RAM, NVMe M.2 SSD, Oculus Quest VR (2x1600x1440) Warthog HOTAS w/150mm extension, Slaw pedals, Gametrix Jetseat, TrackIR for monitor use
harf4ng Posted October 30, 2016 Author Posted October 30, 2016 But the saab viggen has a centered mounted stick. FSSB sticks are more suited for side mounted sticks, right? And I don't know if I want pressure or cam sticks, as I never used a pressure stick for now. Just that, for star citizen for instance, I'll go the dual stick route for sure, and it is easier to enter my cockpit with side mounted sticks ^^ Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat.
harf4ng Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 I guess when products came from outside UE this is a bit of luck to have customs or not. Though now still waiting for an answer to my mail ^^ I like MFG, but will not wait six more months for pedals, I have waited long enough (till february ^^) Which ones did you buy, are you happy with them, and how much did you pay, including VAT and shipping? Thanks Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat.
harf4ng Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 Reasonable price. Now, waiting for his answer :) I have read on forums that you receive a kit you have to assemble yourself? Easy to do? Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat.
Sokol1_br Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 You can receive assembled - cost around 30$ more - just specific this. Kit form is interesting for Russian market, making more affordable.
harf4ng Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 And in the kit version what do we have to assemble? Is this easy? Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat.
rrohde Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 And in the kit version what do we have to assemble? Is this easy? Here's a link for that - on Baur's forum (I let Google auto-translate): http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=905 Little too daring for me; mine came partially assembled - and Baur said he does that for international shipping anyway, so no worries. All you have to do is put the pedals on - done. :) PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com
harf4ng Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 Ok so I received an answer. He has too much work so cannot take new orders before next year... So, let's check who will be available the first, between BRD and MFG (with the combat plates). Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat.
Gladman Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 I wouldn't let the MFG combat plates be an issue for you. The regular ones rotate and you'll be able to buy the combat version at a later date. i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord
harf4ng Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 But will be more expensive. But I will have to take the MFG, as the BRD are too wide even for my obutto r3volution. Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat.
Gladman Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Nothing of quality is cheap. i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord
harf4ng Posted October 31, 2016 Author Posted October 31, 2016 Not complaining about the pedal price, just that buying the combat pedals will be cheaper than buying the standard ones then combat plates. Though will maybe do this, I want pedals, I'm in dire need of pedals... Favorite modules : Huey, F-86F, F14 and P-51D Quest 2, RTX 3080, i7 10700K, 16 Gb of RAM, Pro Flight Trainer PUMA helicopter setup, Warthog HOTAS with two force sensitive stick, custom cockpit and a GS-Cobra dynamic seat.
Sokol1_br Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 The BRD assembly is not difficult, just bolts, nuts and rivets (require a rivet tool). But check if kit version come with parts painted (powder paint) because if not this will cost more for you than the assembled cost.
ED Team NineLine Posted October 31, 2016 ED Team Posted October 31, 2016 The new Thrustmaster pedals are a good entry level pedal. If you are on a budget, there is nothing wrong with them. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Gladman Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 Not complaining about the pedal price, just that buying the combat pedals will be cheaper than buying the standard ones then combat plates. Though will maybe do this, I want pedals, I'm in dire need of pedals... Sorry man, I didn't want to imply anything. I hear ya, its expensive but you'll be very happy with them once they arrive, combat pedals or no. To be honest I have the grey/white version and wish I had the black ones. MMMMM black. i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord
Need-To-Know Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 I will defer my comments on the Thrustmaster pedals to Sith's opinion. But just an FYI - Newegg is saying that Logitec will be (re)launching the Saitek pedals again on November 11th. Which I personally would consider a better option on an entry level pedal setup. You never know how important decent pedals can be until you have dealt with substandard ones. Fight to fly, fly to fight, fight to win. Callsign: Need Shu-Ha-Ri
TexRN Posted October 31, 2016 Posted October 31, 2016 I bought the thrust master pedals and to this day still can not get them to work with my Hotas warthog in DCS A10c I have had them for 2 weeks and tried everything including target to set them up , so I got tired and bought the MFG at least if I have troubles with the MFG pedals I think it wont be because of a conflict in the way DCS sees the warthog. That being said please anyone having this set up please send me some guidance Thanks
ED Team NineLine Posted October 31, 2016 ED Team Posted October 31, 2016 I will defer my comments on the Thrustmaster pedals to Sith's opinion. But just an FYI - Newegg is saying that Logitec will be (re)launching the Saitek pedals again on November 11th. Which I personally would consider a better option on an entry level pedal setup. You never know how important decent pedals can be until you have dealt with substandard ones. I agree with that, if they are the same or better quality, sure they are probably gonna be better. Just saying, as entry level go, the Thrustmasters arent terrible... Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Oceandar Posted November 1, 2016 Posted November 1, 2016 I'm interested to buy the rudder next month. How durable it is ? Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze
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