EagleFox Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Hello pps of Razbam I wuld like veri much if yu fix demage model so it dosen't taek 300000 amraams to kill singl djet tenk u for yur times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHelljumper Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 lol Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Damage model or missile's proximity fuze still bugged ? Any track showing "failed" impact ? Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleFox Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) I cant upload track as attachment wait... EDIT: here https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_aKXL8m_npwNTJ0YVBHRzVEVFk from 104th server. Edited November 6, 2016 by EagleFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktulu2 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 While being much harder to kill than most other planes, the Mirage is now at a realistic level. I.e. the plane will survive missile hits unlike FC3, but the pilot will lose control in the 10s to come after impact 90%+ of the time. I do DCS videos on youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAs8VxtXRJHZLnKS4mKunnQ?view_as=public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microvax Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 While being much harder to kill than most other planes, the Mirage is now at a realistic level. I.e. the plane will survive missile hits unlike FC3, but the pilot will lose control in the 10s to come after impact 90%+ of the time. yuuup [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] *unexpected flight behaviour* Oh shiii*** ! What ? Why ? What is happening ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleFox Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 track says otherwise :music_whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktulu2 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 You know how probability works... If you've got a chance on 4000 to get a car accident, it doesn't mean you cant go through a whole year getting a car accident each day... Just means that odd is 1.77*10^-1315 Now on the track... Mirage 1 : 1 AIM-7 fired in bad conditions, missed, 2cd one hit M2K dead instantly Mirage 2 : AIm-9 hit, missing radar. Aim-9#2 shot 2s after the first one, hit again Mirage lost control. You didn't let time for any failures to develop after 1st missile. Mirage #3 Aim-120 hit Mirage lost radar, Fuel leak. Was able to land though. Life #2 Mirage #4 120 Hit&Kill I do DCS videos on youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAs8VxtXRJHZLnKS4mKunnQ?view_as=public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleFox Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 Now I have to wait for failures to develop and risk his buddy to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHelljumper Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 From Kutulu, 1 mirage on 4 survived his 1st shot so it seams ok to me. Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleFox Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) From Kutulu, 1 mirage on 4 survived his 1st shot so it seams ok to me. More tracks later I just have to find em all youll see. This mirage has armor of an a10 EDIT: Just look at this screenshot https://s21.postimg.org/qdtb3xmbp/Screen_161106_192710.jpg Amraam heading straight into him right into his nose and it hit him before his s530D hit me. Mine does nothing to him his somehow hits me and instantly kills me. How when you have said that his radar was destroyed? Edited November 6, 2016 by EagleFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHelljumper Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I fly the 2000 a lot, 9/10 time 1 missile hit = 1 kill. You might have been unlucky. BTW your screenshot proves nothing Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleFox Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 Sorry for not spamming prnt scr button ill be sure to do that next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHelljumper Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 I'm not agressive bro, it have already been talked about before, mirage will likely survive MANPAD and sometimes survive fox2/fox3. Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktulu2 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Now I have to wait for failures to develop and risk his buddy to come... Well. IRL planes dont exploade magically at the moment they get hit by anything... FCS/Hydro fails, wait 5s for the accumulators to empty, than wait 1-3s to realise he's moving straight only. So yeah, wait... Besides, the mirage's nose is OP, in the sense than it will take all the damage, blocking it for the rest of the plane. This is something that is present in all plane to some extent, just more on the M2K. That's the only problem with it. I do DCS videos on youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAs8VxtXRJHZLnKS4mKunnQ?view_as=public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_coreSix Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Well. IRL planes dont exploade magically at the moment they get hit by anything... FCS/Hydro fails, wait 5s for the accumulators to empty, than wait 1-3s to realise he's moving straight only. So yeah, wait... Besides, the mirage's nose is OP, in the sense than it will take all the damage, blocking it for the rest of the plane. This is something that is present in all plane to some extent, just more on the M2K. That's the only problem with it. The amount of times I hit a mirage in the face with an AMRAAM and it just keeps flying and continues to shoot me with a Magic which insta kills me are hilarious, you cannot deny that there is something very off about the damage model. Sometimes one AMRAAM will make the kill, sure, but very often it doesn't. This is even more apparent with SRMs, you'll almost never kill it with one AIM-9 where as in a F-15 or Su-27 you explode to pieces. It amazes me that RAZBAM doesn't prioritize this bug, or even comments on it for a start. Only thing I've heard is that the damage model is apparently finished... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktulu2 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I do get a lot of kills on them with aim-9s. While I agree its not perfect, I don't think ED's planes are much better, surviving an AIM-9 without an hydro fail should be possible. But for 120s, mirages shouldn't be able to survive a direct impact as often, given the missile was designed to take down a bomber. As I said, I think it's just a problem with the nose or something, ALL the rest of the plane is perfectly fine. I do DCS videos on youtube : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAs8VxtXRJHZLnKS4mKunnQ?view_as=public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 The amount of times I hit a mirage in the face with an AMRAAM and it just keeps flying and continues to shoot me with a Magic which insta kills me are hilarious, you cannot deny that there is something very off about the damage model. Sometimes one AMRAAM will make the kill, sure, but very often it doesn't. This is even more apparent with SRMs, you'll almost never kill it with one AIM-9 where as in a F-15 or Su-27 you explode to pieces. It amazes me that RAZBAM doesn't prioritize this bug, or even comments on it for a start. Only thing I've heard is that the damage model is apparently finished... This is so true. The M2000 is a flying tank :D Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypc Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 [...] you cannot deny that there is something very off about the damage model. FC3 models are very off, not the mirage ... "You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to your level of preparation." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_coreSix Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 FC3 models are very off, not the mirage ... Yea but not in a way that makes them tougher than they should be, quite the opposite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oceandar Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Yea but not in a way that makes them tougher than they should be, quite the opposite... Well, that's why I always spam 2 missiles when I have M2000 as an opponent no matter what :D Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself is true power. - Lao Tze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knock-Knock Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Strange. Im being shot down a lot, in the Mirage, and only once have I made it back to the airfield, let alone been able to continue flying - no way I could engage in combat in that condition. And that was a R-3R that hit me. With AIM-9, R27's, AIM-120's, I have never survived a hit. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Strange. Im being shot down a lot, in the Mirage, and only once have I made it back to the airfield, let alone been able to continue flying - no way I could engage in combat in that condition. And that was a R-3R that hit me. With AIM-9, R27's, AIM-120's, I have never survived a hit. How do you dare fighting against F-15 and wasting its precious AMRAAM. You should eject as soon as you see "15" on SERVAL display :megalol: Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHelljumper Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 How do you dare fighting against F-15 and wasting its precious AMRAAM. You should eject as soon as you see "15" on SERVAL display :megalol: True dat Helljumper - M2000C Guru Helljumper's Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK3rTjezLUxPbWHvJJ3W2fA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridbobkan Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 How do you dare fighting against F-15 and wasting its precious AMRAAM. You should eject as soon as you see "15" on SERVAL display :megalol: :megalol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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