Braeden108 Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Sorry for the clickbaity title but I couldn't put a serious title on the because it's nothing more than a pipe dream. So the AJS-37 was announced today. I couldn't help but notice that glorious cathode ray tube proudly and prominently in the center of the panel. https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/15168794_1804975513058452_7578342252096843222_o.jpg And I thought to myself... You can get cathode ray tubes out of old oscilloscopes. You can wire the electromagnets into an analog X and Y signal... You know, simple stuff. Not many questions here I just wanted to plant that idea into the backs of your heads. Because deep down you know you'd rather have a high voltage tube in your pit than a little LCD screen. https://www.etsy.com/listing/488001299/brimar-cathode-ray-tube?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_b-electronics_and_accessories-audio-stereos_and_home_audio&utm_custom1=6f35f81b-0ade-4152-a65d-3919b261c4a4&gclid=CjwKEAiAyO_BBRDOgM-K8MGWpmYSJACePQ9CPv_qPwL3GEGkYdESwobsAZQYLtdxQK8i8jsCJlsM2xoCB_zw_wcB Not too expensive either. Light the tires kick the fires! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Braeden108 Posted November 29, 2016 Author Posted November 29, 2016 This is not a rabbit hole I should go down... But I feel old oscilloscopes are basically set up for this. You just have to set the vertical and horizontal sweep to a known value than modulate the voltage on the scopes input based on the image you want to display. Easier said than done. But its better than starting from a naked tube. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Sencore-Wide-Band-Oscilloscope-PS148A-Powers-On-AS-IS/332040740474?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D38530%26meid%3Dec7b594476df42d9a053c9beb59d226a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D381726368204 Light the tires kick the fires! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Kornskydiver Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Sounds like a interesting project! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
agrasyuk Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 http://www.mikesflightdeck.com/rwr_project/rwr_project.html Anton. My pit build thread . Simple and cheap UFC project
SinusoidDelta Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Go for it! Here's another one: http://hackaday.com/2012/11/05/custom-circuit-drives-a-small-round-crt-display/
Thadiun Okona Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Super cool, but if it were me I'd make a working lcd version first and after the pit is complete maybe retrofit an actual scope screen. Very few people will truly appreciate the difference between a real crt vs a faked lcd if the function is identical. I've seen too many projects/cockpits not get done or even to a working state by focusing too closely on something which can be very nicely handled in more practical ways. ...then again, this is the cockpit builders section of DCS :p
Deadman Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 If you make a replica A-10C and want a RWR how will you hide the extra bit of the screen? You have The Gun Ready Light indicator above it the ADI to the right to the left the LCD would hang over the MFCD and bezel and then you have the Air Speed indicator below. So unless you have a supply of square 3.25 inch LCDs laying around. https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Duckling Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 A third option for a scope or tft/lcd is a rear mounted miniprojector in a tube. We hacked a radarscope (true 5" J35 Draken this case) and s simple media behind the lense good enough for backprojection. Low level graphic projection works well and the orig cathod tube is saved and out to show area. Proj screen is good enough but clearly not as distict as the true one or a crt Same approach should be doable with the RWR also. Got some pics stached from that build if interested /gus - - - -
Braeden108 Posted November 29, 2016 Author Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) Super cool, but if it were me I'd make a working lcd version first and after the pit is complete maybe retrofit an actual scope screen. Very few people will truly appreciate the difference between a real crt vs a faked lcd if the function is identical. I've seen too many projects/cockpits not get done or even to a working state by focusing too closely on something which can be very nicely handled in more practical ways. ...then again, this is the cockpit builders section of DCS :p I don't have plans to build an Viggen pit, no time money or space. But building a crt display sounds like a lot of fun. Though I do realize I put this in the home cockpits area. It probably should be in input output Edited November 29, 2016 by Braeden108 Light the tires kick the fires! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Warhog Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 A third option for a scope or tft/lcd is a rear mounted miniprojector in a tube. We hacked a radarscope (true 5" J35 Draken this case) and s simple media behind the lense good enough for backprojection. Low level graphic projection works well and the orig cathod tube is saved and out to show area. Proj screen is good enough but clearly not as distict as the true one or a crt Same approach should be doable with the RWR also. Got some pics stached from that build if interested /gus Hey Gus I was thinking of something similar for my RWR. I'm getting close to actually needing to deal with this dilemma. I haven't been able to source and kind of acceptable display that will work without it sticking out one side of its enclosure. So I am going to experiment with a pico projector and try rear screen projection for RWR. No idea whether this will work but I'm running out of ideas. Regards John W aka WarHog. My Cockpit Build Pictures... My Arduino Sketches ... https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-Dc0Wd9C5l3uY-cPj1iQD3iAEHY6EuHg?usp=sharing WIN 10 Pro, i8-8700k @ 5.0ghz, ASUS Maximus x Code, 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum Ram, AIO Water Cooler, M.2 512GB NVMe, 500gb SSD, EVGA GTX 1080 ti (11gb), Sony 65” 4K Display VPC MongoosT-50, TM Warthog Throttle, TRK IR 5.0, Slaw Viper Pedals
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