R13M1 and R13M performance

[Rainbowgeorge]

For me it seems like the R3S is currently outperforming the modernized versions in every regard.

The range is bigger, the seeker is more sensitive

and the maneuverability is much better.

 

Has anybody else noticed this?

 

Have a nice day!

Edited December 13, 2016 by Rainbowgeorge

[Rainbowgeorge]

Missles were launched simultaneously with emergency launch.

 

 

Video comparing the performance:

 

https://www.youtube.com/embed/mkSIMnndIL4

Edited December 13, 2016 by Rainbowgeorge

[WinterH]

I know not helpful but, all I have to say at this point is:

 

Wow...

[Rainbowgeorge]

I know not helpful but, all I have to say at this point is:

 

Wow...

 

What do you mean? :)

[Dugong]

Yes i noticed something very wrong with r13m1 in MP:- launch against non manouering F5e at 1km range results in many misses! How is this possible?

[mattebubben]

Well im not sure if the R-13M and R-13M1 are worse then they should be.

 

Or if its simply that the R-3S is over performing to a significant degree,

or a mix of the two.

 

Since i feel the R-3S is very much better then it should be

 

(It should be comparable to the Aim-9B

where as in its current game-state its more comparable to the Aim-9P

where as the Aim-9P should be significantly better then the R-3S in every way)

Edited December 17, 2016 by mattebubben

[Dugong]

R60M not working in MP either, unable to aquire any lock whatsoever.

[JunMcKill]

R60M not working in MP either, unable to aquire any lock whatsoever.

 

Can tell you that R-60MK is good, Cubans in Angola shot down one C-130 and damaged another, and was badly damaged a Mirage F1, all with R-60M

[TomCatMucDe]

Yes, the R60M on Mig21 is in a very bad state currently. I hardly can aquire F5s with it even when i m on their 6 and close.

 

Unfortunately, LNS doesnt seem to care about the Mig anymore and arent fixing it. I understand they put full focus on the Viggen but so do other Devs and still support their current modules... Belsimtek and ED are good examples.

[BadHabit]

Don't know about MP but I noticed while on quick missions that sometimes I have problems with my view at pitching up movements, it reaches an unconfortable stop point just below the mirror while it shoudn't, this is not constant but from little notice when this occur my r-60 wont lock, then I reset the game and coming back my view has normal ceiling again and r-60 works..have no clue how this can be connected, will report when more incidents like this happen.

[Cobra847]

Yes, the R60M on Mig21 is in a very bad state currently. I hardly can aquire F5s with it even when i m on their 6 and close.

 

Unfortunately, LNS doesnt seem to care about the Mig anymore and arent fixing it. I understand they put full focus on the Viggen but so do other Devs and still support their current modules... Belsimtek and ED are good examples.

 

Uh, no.

 

This was reported in the pre-match briefing of the Grudgematch and is currently being fixed.

 

EDIT: Just to clarify; the bug noted was that depending on the sortie, respawn state, etc.-- sometimes the missiles won't lock, while sometimes they do.

 

 

If there is anything extra to add to that report, it would be helpful to add it to our mantis!

Edited December 21, 2016 by Cobra847

[TomCatMucDe]

Uh, no.

 

This was reported in the pre-match briefing of the Grudgematch and is currently being fixed.

 

EDIT: Just to clarify; the bug noted was that depending on the sortie, respawn state, etc.-- sometimes the missiles won't lock, while sometimes they do.

 

 

If there is anything extra to add to that report, it would be helpful to add it to our mantis!

 

 

 

Nothing to add. These are also my observations. I hope it will be fixed soon.

 

 

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[Wright_GR1]

Oh glad I am not the only one seeing this! The R3S works fine at the mo though so I have gone back to that.

[BadHabit]

What is wrong with the missiles atm. Let alone that R3R is not able to track correctly head on targets, the missiles don't accelerate to their top speed. the faster I saw any missile go is 1.7 mach and that is like for a few milliseconds they also seem to have too much drag after some seconds. Anyone can explain?

 

EDIT: Looking from many other sources I see that that is the correct speed, possible lock distacne and abilities in general are correct but still the missiles seem to loose energy way to fast.

Edited March 12, 2017 by BadHabit

[gavagai]

What is wrong with the missiles atm. Let alone that R3R is not able to track correctly head on targets, the missiles don't accelerate to their top speed. the faster I saw any missile go is 1.7 mach and that is like for a few milliseconds they also seem to have too much drag after some seconds. Anyone can explain?

 

EDIT: Looking from many other sources I see that that is the correct speed, possible lock distacne and abilities in general are correct but still the missiles seem to loose energy way to fast.

 

The only thing I've managed to hit with the R-3R in the last 4 months is a B-52 from dead astern. I've tried it out against all kinds of AI fighters from different aspects, and you're lucky if the R-3R gets within 500m of the target.