Introducing the VPC MongoosT-50

[WindyTX]

I did try the the hard Cam 1st but for formation I would have had to fly out of trim to stay out of the center notch.

 

Then I took it apart

 

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[Euccy]

Yea I got it all done I am using the soft center 3 dot Cams and the medium springs. I have a 30 cm extension on it and it centers great with the Virpil stick top.

 

After couple of hours using it I am very happy it took me a couple of hours to sort through the Cam swap but it is all set up now.

 

The sensors are excellent I see the in game stick reflect every tiny movement ( way better than my 5 year old Warthog ). There is zero sticktion and formation flying is a joy.

 

I have recommended they send them out with the soft center cam to save the Cam change Pain which I think the majority of us would prefer, tho it would be interesting to hear from someone with a Warthog stick top on it as the extra weight does make a difference.

 

 

 

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Thanks for posting your experience with changing over the cams.

 

It would be nice to be able to state your preferred cam/spring combination when ordering the stick.

 

I would like to receive my Mongoos T-50 flight stick with the soft centre cams already installed to save the hassle of changing them over.

 

As I have yet to receive a shipping notice I have put in this request. Hopefully they will be able to accommodate me...

[Cyph3r]

Yea I got it all done I am using the soft center 3 dot Cams and the medium springs. I have a 30 cm extension on it and it centers great with the Virpil stick top.

 

After couple of hours using it I am very happy it took me a couple of hours to sort through the Cam swap but it is all set up now.

 

The sensors are excellent I see the in game stick reflect every tiny movement ( way better than my 5 year old Warthog ). There is zero sticktion and formation flying is a joy.

 

I have recommended they send them out with the soft center cam to save the Cam change Pain which I think the majority of us would prefer, tho it would be interesting to hear from someone with a Warthog stick top on it as the extra weight does make a difference.

 

 

 

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:thumbsup:

 

I'm glad to hear the time spent changing the cam was worth it and that you're enjoying the MT-50!

 

Based on these comments, we'll be shipping out future orders of the MT-50 with the soft-center cams installed as standard!

[Cyph3r]

There's been some slight updated to the Quick Start guide based on some of these comments.

 

VPC MongoosT-50 Base - Quick Start Guide

[fritzchris]

Hi

 

@Cyph3r:

Can you please post the measurements for the U-Bracket on the T50 Base. So i can make an adapter to mount the Base on my Deskmount.

 

Thanks

[Vullcan]

The u bracket makes mounting fairly complicated... no way to mount this from the bottom of the base using 4 screws?

[Cyph3r]

Hi

 

@Cyph3r:

Can you please post the measurements for the U-Bracket on the T50 Base. So i can make an adapter to mount the Base on my Deskmount.

 

Thanks

 

Here's the dimensions of the U-Bracket. Of course you could replace the U-Bracket entirely and mount to where the U-Bracket mounts to.

 

 

 

The u bracket makes mounting fairly complicated... no way to mount this from the bottom of the base using 4 screws?

 

You could. But we definitely wouldn't recommend it!

[Lenux]

Does it have Z axis ?

Thank you

[Cyph3r]

Does it have Z axis ?

Thank you

 

Technically, yes! The brake lever is the Z axis. There's no twist axis however

[LeCuvier]

Here's the dimensions of the U-Bracket. Of course you could replace the U-Bracket entirely and mount to where the U-Bracket mounts to.

That sounds good to me!

Can you provide a drawing that would help to prepare that solution?

I have the Monstertech table mounts and want to continue using those.

[Cyph3r]

That sounds good to me!

Can you provide a drawing that would help to prepare that solution?

I have the Monstertech table mounts and want to continue using those.

 

If you look on the diagram I posted of the U-Bracket, the narrower section with the 4 screw holes is the dimensions to mount to the rear side of the base (thus replacing the U-bracket) :thumbup:

[dburne]

That sounds good to me!

Can you provide a drawing that would help to prepare that solution?

I have the Monstertech table mounts and want to continue using those.

 

Not sure of the timing, but MonsterTech will be offering a plate for their table mounts to accommodate the Mongoose base. I had asked them about this earlier.

[LeCuvier]

Not sure of the timing, but MonsterTech will be offering a plate for their table mounts to accommodate the Mongoose base. I had asked them about this earlier.

Yes I know, but they need to have a T-50 before they will finalize design and make it (so they told me)

[insanedruid]

Hi Cyph3r, when I try to change the spring I find that one of the spring loading screw(roll axis) is off center and the white plastic is rubbing the inner side of the tube. This makes it hard to adjust from through the hole in the top plate and increases the friction. Is there a fix to that?

[dburne]

Yes I know, but they need to have a T-50 before they will finalize design and make it (so they told me)

 

Yeah, they told me they had one on pre-order, so maybe won't be too much longer now.

[insanedruid]

I think I have come to conclusion that all the extra cams I got are deflective.

Since I am only able to remove the roll cam. I replaced the hard one with the soft one and found that the movement is not smooth when I move the stick to the right edge. After I inspected the cam I thought it's because of the surface of the cam so I reverse the cam and the left edge of the stick is not smooth now...

 

And then I compare those cam with the hard cam I found that the contacting surface of the hard cams had been smoothed and it's color is silvery metal color while all the other cams are with black coating.

 

edit: add photos

 

http://imgur.com/tuZ5xCR

 

http://imgur.com/3a52Unv

 

And here is the whole t50 album

 

http://imgur.com/a/tNZdz

Edited August 14, 2017 by insanedruid

[Cyph3r]

I think I have come to conclusion that all the extra cams I got are deflective.

Since I am only able to remove the roll cam. I replaced the hard one with the soft one and found that the movement is not smooth when I move the stick to the right edge. After I inspected the cam I thought it's because of the surface of the cam so I reverse the cam and the left edge of the stick is not smooth now...

 

And then I compare those cam with the hard cam I found that the contacting surface of the hard cams had been smoothed and it's color is silvery metal color while all the other cams are with black coating.

 

edit: add photos

 

http://imgur.com/tuZ5xCR

 

http://imgur.com/3a52Unv

 

And here is the whole t50 album

 

http://imgur.com/a/tNZdz

 

Hi Insanedruid!

 

Ah, I'm sorry yours have arrived not perfectly smooth, can I propose (for the time being) you polish the surface with something like 800-1200 grit wet and dry, and we'll ship another set of cams out to you ASAP!

 

Please email sale@virpil.com referencing this with your order number and we'll sort it out immediately!

 

We'll also look into why these cams were not up to the standard they should have been and I urge anyone who has a similar sort of issue with their cams to email me at sale@virpil.com!

Edited August 14, 2017 by Cyph3r

[insanedruid]

Anyone swapped the cams yet.

 

I have my Roll cam swapped but the Pitch Cam will not come out and I have tried pretty forcefully worried about breaking the whole dam thing.

 

Ok its a pain in the Arse but to do it take a small torx put it in the screw hole be careful not to get into the threads of the mount and then lever the thing out against the Cam Gymbal mount.

 

Also watch the logic board it has spacer washer and nut between it and the side to stop it getting bent when you tighten it. took me 2 hours to work through it all still it works.

 

Cheers

 

Windy

 

I got mine last night and was unable to remove the pitch cam... I guess I will have to try it again tonight.

[WindyTX]

At your own risk be careful not to get into the threads. Another poster rocked it from side to side to get it loose but mine would not, move this was my last resort.

 

Also when you put the new one into position make sure it is nicely lined up so you dont cross thread the small screws putting them in.

 

Hope this is helpful.

 

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Edited August 15, 2017 by WindyTX

[Cyph3r]

I'd definitely recommend the rocking side to side method!

[Brk195]

I got my tracking information yesterday so I don't have the base yet. But judging by what I saw here I suggest a detailed tutorial video be made to help new users with the cam and spring change process

[Winger]

I got my tracking information yesterday so I don't have the base yet. But judging by what I saw here I suggest a detailed tutorial video be made to help new users with the cam and spring change process

 

Me too. But when tracking it it doesnt show any info.

Diffrent for you?

[Cyph3r]

I got my tracking information yesterday so I don't have the base yet. But judging by what I saw here I suggest a detailed tutorial video be made to help new users with the cam and spring change process

 

We're currently working with some YouTubers to get some high quality videos produced :thumbup:

[Brk195]

Me too. But when tracking it it doesnt show any info.

Diffrent for you?

 

 

It's not showing anything yet but I suggest you give it some time I sent an email asking for the correct link for tracking.

 

We're currently working with some YouTubers to get some high quality videos produced :thumbup:

 

Good thinking looking forward to those

Edited August 15, 2017 by Brk195

[WindyTX]

Fwiw mine showed trackin on the US postal service after 48 hours.

Usps.com

 

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