How long should stick be?

[WelshZeCorgi]

I got some stick extensions for the warthog HOTAS, but I'm having trouble determining how long the stick should be to get that realistic "feel", range of movement and amount of fine control. So I was wondering how long the stick of the A10C was, From where the hand position is to the floor.

 

Anyone know?

[Sokol1_br]

Since TmW gimbal is not design considering extension (like the changeable CAM in VKB, Baur, VirPil gimbals) - but is benefit be use one, softening their center "lock" - more length you use, less "realistic fell" you have, since the stick will loose the ability to return center, due the heavy (~1kg) and outbalanced grip.

 

See the 20cm effect in this Sajah video:

 

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Edited February 2, 2017 by Sokol1_br
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[cichlidfan]

IMHO, the goal of the Warthog extension is not to give you one-to-one replication of the real thing. It's main purpose is to allow more precise control. The longer it is, the more precise your movements can be.

[NeilWillis]

Mine is 30 cm, and I don't have any issues with the gimbal not supporting the stick. Providing it is left in the centre position it stays there.

 

30cm definitely gives you very accurate control, so I'd say the longer the better. Don't be taken in by that "size isn't everything" nonsense!

[WelshZeCorgi]

Mine is 30 cm, and I don't have any issues with the gimbal not supporting the stick. Providing it is left in the centre position it stays there.

 

30cm definitely gives you very accurate control, so I'd say the longer the better. Don't be taken in by that "size isn't everything" nonsense!

 

My only problem with the 36cm stick extension (3, 12cm from MFG) I have is that it hits my knees before full deflection and my knees are so close together because my rudder pedals are a bit narrow. I'm trying to figure out how to get it to work comfortably.

[Bearfoot]

As others have said, for precision and control (which is the point of the extension) -- the longer the better!

 

However, the balance/limit to length comes from the rest of the environment. Too long, and you will find one or more of the following happening:

 

(a) you need to position stick very far from desk to allow for full forward throw

(b) you need to set very far back from stick to allow for full back throw

© with [a] and combined, you will find it really awkward/uncomfortable to maybe even impossible to effect a full forward throw because your arms are not long enough!

(d) you will find it awkward/uncomfortable to effect a full left or right throw because your legs get in the way

 

All the above are predicated on a desktop environment. In a home cockpit or a dedicated gaming chair, some or all of the above maybe alleviated enough to go for a longer length without issue ... but go long enough and eventually you will still run into them again!

[Deezle]

I found 4" was too long for my taste and cut it down to 3" (7.5cm). IMO the gimbal has way too much angular movement for a much longer stick to feel right, the throw ends up getting kind of ridiculous.

[PiedDroit]

I found 4" was too long for my taste and cut it down to 3" (7.5cm). IMO the gimbal has way too much angular movement for a much longer stick to feel right, the throw ends up getting kind of ridiculous.

I just answered a similar (and old) post in another thread as I thought the info is useful:

You can limit the stick input necessary to get full deflection by reducing the saturation X value in DCS axis tuning.

This is also doable with TARGET software.

No need to cut your extension, you can have a long extension and a short throw at the same time alright.

[Deadman]

The stick hand rest is 19 1/2 inches off of the floor when in the aft position and level with the floor. The for and aft range of motion can be checked out in the video I have posted. There all so pictures of a real A-10C stick and grip in my thread

Edited February 2, 2017 by Deadman