Strikeeagle345 Posted April 3, 2019 Posted April 3, 2019 Funny, I have the same one unless it is a earlier build... The one Debolestis made? this one: https://www.shapeways.com/product/3MJPNE2SV/warthog-throttle-part-afterburner-detent?optionId=63799442&li=related-items Strike USLANTCOM.com i7-9700K OC 5GHz| MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON | 32GB DDR4 3200 | GTX 3090 | Samsung SSD | HP Reverb G2 | VIRPIL Alpha | VIRPIL Blackhawk | HOTAS Warthog
MTFDarkEagle Posted April 3, 2019 Author Posted April 3, 2019 OP updated with F/A-18C and F-14B :) Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Baz000 Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 They are awesome, thanks alot... But the one for the Tomcat I have to push it up against the MIL detent to have the DLC and speedbrakes retract
MTFDarkEagle Posted April 4, 2019 Author Posted April 4, 2019 They are awesome, thanks alot... But the one for the Tomcat I have to push it up against the MIL detent to have the DLC and speedbrakes retract That could be the variance because (I suspect) you're using a 3D printed detent? Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
funkyfranky Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 With the Tomcat, I observe something a bit strange. The cure works very well and AB turn on when I pass the detent. However, when I decrease the throttle and pass the detent in the inverse direction, the AB stays on. I have to move the throttle quite a bit further back than the position where the AB turned on :huh: It's a bit like there is a hysteresis effect. I don't have that in other aircraft and it's not my hardware as I monitor the position with the RCTRL+ENTER overlay. Do you guys observe that as well? A warrior's mission is to foster the success of others. i9-12900K | RTX 4090 | 128 GB Ram 3200 MHz DDR-4 | Quest 3 RAT - On the Range - Rescue Helo - Recovery Tanker - Warehouse - Airboss
Knock-Knock Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 With the Tomcat, I observe something a bit strange. The cure works very well and AB turn on when I pass the detent. However, when I decrease the throttle and pass the detent in the inverse direction, the AB stays on. I have to move the throttle quite a bit further back than the position where the AB turned on :huh: It's a bit like there is a hysteresis effect. I don't have that in other aircraft and it's not my hardware as I monitor the position with the RCTRL+ENTER overlay. Do you guys observe that as well? Yep, so I adjusted my curve to disengage AB on the return, making it ignite a little later in my push trough detent. - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals |
funkyfranky Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 Yep, so I adjusted my curve to disengage AB on the return, making it ignite a little later in my push trough detent. Ah, good to know I'm not (completely) crazy :) You think it's a feature or a bug? A warrior's mission is to foster the success of others. i9-12900K | RTX 4090 | 128 GB Ram 3200 MHz DDR-4 | Quest 3 RAT - On the Range - Rescue Helo - Recovery Tanker - Warehouse - Airboss
MTFDarkEagle Posted April 5, 2019 Author Posted April 5, 2019 Hmm that's not something that I recognise... What occasionally happens is that the AB will take a second to disengage, but that's not frequent... Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Baz000 Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 Honestly, how do you setup these curves so well? I'd like to learn how to do it myself too
speed-of-heat Posted April 6, 2019 Posted April 6, 2019 a lot of consistent trial an error... but for AB on the detent its kind of easy, adjust the curve so that the physical position of the throttle overlays a logical separator, test in game adjust and repeat SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
MTFDarkEagle Posted April 7, 2019 Author Posted April 7, 2019 Honestly, how do you setup these curves so well? I'd like to learn how to do it myself too Trial and error :) With the linear curve you can judge if the AB is before or after the detent (usually after), and by how much. Then it just takes some practice and trial and error to get the correct spot, make the result linear and correct the AB spot again. Usually it takes me around 10-15 minutes or so to setup a curve. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Greyman Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 We can only guess about the curve for the upcoming F-16 Viper, unless of course, somebody knows different. :)
MTFDarkEagle Posted October 1, 2019 Author Posted October 1, 2019 We can only guess about the curve for the upcoming F-16 Viper, unless of course, somebody knows different. :) True. However, it's not much fuss to make it, so it'll appear in the list rather quickly I'm sure. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Greyman Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Hopefully by the end of this week. Well I can at least hope. ;)
Madbrood Posted October 3, 2019 Posted October 3, 2019 Had a quick go at sorting a curve tonight but I’m exhausted - will hopefully have some values for you all tomorrow unless someone else gets it done before then! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk i7-4770k | EVGA GTX 980 SC | 16GB DDR3 | TrackIR 5, TM Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals DCS: F-16C, F/A-18C, F-14A/B, AV-8B, FC3, A-10C, Black Shark II, UH-1H, F-86F, MiG-21bis, Mirage 2000C, AJS-37, F-5E :pilotfly:
Home Fries Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Here's my Viper curve (factory detent): 0,7,15,25,35,45,56,67,78,89,100. EDIT: Revised numbers. New values correspond with the throttle actually hitting the detent in-game. Edited October 11, 2019 by Home Fries Revised curve -Home Fries My DCS Files and Skins My DCS TARGET Profile for Cougar or Warthog and MFDs F-14B LANTIRN Guide
MTFDarkEagle Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 I did a rough curve yesterday as well, but not completely happy with it yet. I'll post it later when I'm happy with it, and try home fries's as well :) Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Greyman Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 0-1-3-12-25-39-52-65-77-89-100 appears to switch my AB on and off at the right time and appears to move linearly between idle and full military, for my throttle. the one thing that worries me is whether there is enough range to change the power level once in AB. there does appear to be a bit of a question mark, at the moment, over whether full AB power is being reached in the F16. I'm not overly sure that this will make any difference to the curve, whatever the outcome, but let's see.
FoxTwo Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 With the shapeways push through detent, I didn't have to set a curve for the viper at all.
Madbrood Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 0-1-3-12-25-39-52-65-77-89-100 appears to switch my AB on and off at the right time and appears to move linearly between idle and full military, for my throttle I used this as a starting point, but had to tweak mine slightly around the AB engagement point - if I had remembered, I would have taken a note and posted mine here. Will do so when I get home. i7-4770k | EVGA GTX 980 SC | 16GB DDR3 | TrackIR 5, TM Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals DCS: F-16C, F/A-18C, F-14A/B, AV-8B, FC3, A-10C, Black Shark II, UH-1H, F-86F, MiG-21bis, Mirage 2000C, AJS-37, F-5E :pilotfly:
Greyman Posted October 8, 2019 Posted October 8, 2019 Fair enough. It would appear that all WH might not have been made equal, but it would be good to see what you ended up with, in case it might help another Viper pilot.
MTFDarkEagle Posted October 9, 2019 Author Posted October 9, 2019 Updated the first post with both curves from Home Fries and my current one. Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Home Fries Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 @MTFDarkEagle, I just updated my curve to better match the in-game detent. -Home Fries My DCS Files and Skins My DCS TARGET Profile for Cougar or Warthog and MFDs F-14B LANTIRN Guide
Greyman Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 you're probably going to have to change it again, as the latest update to the AB meant that it activated at below the detent. for me at least. i just raised all of the numbers by a few points and that seemed to fix it. 0-6-13-21-30-41-54-67-90-100 if anyone is interested.
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