Capn kamikaze Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) What the title says. When is he going to get fixed? Oh and so is the pilot, why do they need to weave across the sky after every turn, make a turn to the next waypoint, and fly in a straight line...... Edited April 16, 2017 by Cap'n kamikaze
razo+r Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Except the waving which doesn't cause any troubles for me, refueling is ok, don't know what you have... Can you describe your problem?
Capn kamikaze Posted April 16, 2017 Author Posted April 16, 2017 I was playing multiplayer earlier, and after my friend refueled, no matter what we did the boom operator would not refuel me. No problem in single player.
razo+r Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 I was playing multiplayer earlier, and after my friend refueled, no matter what we did the boom operator would not refuel me. No problem in single player. Then he may disconnected vefore tanker said transfer complete and didn't say abort rejoin, so tanker thought he would still refuel Can you check that?
Capn kamikaze Posted April 17, 2017 Author Posted April 17, 2017 Nope, we made sure he said to abort.
Capn kamikaze Posted April 17, 2017 Author Posted April 17, 2017 I asked to refuel he gave me clearance to join, but just refused to hook up, so after that I aborted, and then my friend tried to refuel again, and it refused to refuel him. We did it several times, and that first refuel seemed to have screwed something up.
razo+r Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 I asked to refuel he gave me clearance to join, but just refused to hook up, so after that I aborted, and then my friend tried to refuel again, and it refused to refuel him. We did it several times, and that first refuel seemed to have screwed something up. When you said ready for contact, were you close enough?
Capn kamikaze Posted April 17, 2017 Author Posted April 17, 2017 Yes, followed the same procedure I do in single player, the same thing happened to my friend aswell.
Capn kamikaze Posted April 17, 2017 Author Posted April 17, 2017 I'm wondering could lag cause issues with this?
rogonaut Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 that could be some kind of bug must try it out. in general terms concerning the aerial refueling in dcs i find this old post quite interesting: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2897541&postcount=71
Capn kamikaze Posted April 17, 2017 Author Posted April 17, 2017 I think I've found another bug, in single player I just did some air to air refueling, and I had a disconnect, and after that the boom operator refused to try to reconnect or move the boom at all, I had to abort, then go through the radio menus again to get him to respond. I'll post the track. https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=160889&stc=1&d=1492445021Refueling 2.trk
razo+r Posted April 17, 2017 Posted April 17, 2017 I think I've found another bug, in single player I just did some air to air refueling, and I had a disconnect, and after that the boom operator refused to try to reconnect or move the boom at all, I had to abort, then go through the radio menus again to get him to respond. I'll post the track. https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=160889&stc=1&d=1492445021 That reminds me of a situation that I've had, I've flown with my AI wingman in SP, first I refuelled then I told my wingman to refuel. it worked for me but my wingman was staying behind the tanker until he ran out of fuel... might be connected with your example
shagrat Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) It is still "bugged", as in "not like in real life". You do the formation flying while the incompetent boom operator tries to kill you. Usually now a bunch of guys will tell you that you just need to practice and it is "supposed to be hard", while ignoring all the input and facts from Sierra99 and Eddie (who are subject matter experts). The whole thread posted earlier, where Sierra99 (was a boom operator in real life) explains what the boom operator has to do and what he doesn't in DCS, is an interesting read... EDIT this thread, especially posts #20 and #71 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2897541 Edited April 18, 2017 by shagrat Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
mytai01 Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 The weaving you describe is probably because the AI is trying to get exactly back on the track line between it's last waypoint and it's next waypoint. It's limited turn capability causes it to overshooting and keep reversing it's direction of roll. MS Win7 Pro x64, Intel i7-6700K 4.0Ghz, Corsair RAM 16Gb,EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0, w/ Adjustable RGB LED Graphics Card 08G-P4-6286-KR, Creative Labs SB X-FI Titanium Fatal1ty Champ PCIe Sound Card, Corsair Neutron XTI 1TB SSD, TM Warthog Throttle & Stick, TM TPR Pedels, Oculus Rift VR Headset CV1, Klipsch Promedia 4.1 Speakers...
Capn kamikaze Posted September 29, 2017 Author Posted September 29, 2017 The weaving you describe is probably because the AI is trying to get exactly back on the track line between it's last waypoint and it's next waypoint. It's limited turn capability causes it to overshooting and keep reversing it's direction of roll. That's what I was thinking, the sensible thing to do then, is make a turn to the waypoint, and just ignore that he's off the line, and then at the next waypoint, do the opposite turn, so as to avoid gradually rotating the line about its middle over time.
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