Mig-23-98 Project

[Schmidtfire]

Don't get carried away at this point. Since this MiG-23 mod is based on the FC3 MiG-29S, expect exactly the same HUD/avionics until changed or replaced. That was one of the reasons why cubanace picked the modernized MiG-23-98, it shares similar systems and abilities with the MiG-29S in DCS.

[cubanace]

New Member.

 

Our team welcomes a new member "Hellrequiem" a physicist on aerodynamics calculations to help us build the Mig-23 FM.

[Seaeagle]

Mig-23-98 does not have MFD only displays radar on hud.

Mig-27 was the one that got that Upgrade into production due to its ground role.

 

Well yes that was the point I was trying to make. I can well imagine a "HUD-only" cockpit as long as we are talking a relatively simple radar/WCS upgrade allowing it to use "new" air-to-air missiles like those employed by the MiG-29 - i.e. the MiG-29 doesn't make much use of its IPV for that purpose either.

 

But I cannot see the feasibility(possibility actually) of advanced features such as radar ground mapping modes/associated weaponry and TV opticals/armament with only the HUD as interface.

 

The quote you posted was a little excessive(lol), so I condensed it to the paragraphs concerning the proposed MiG-23-98 upgrade and highlighted a couple of passages:

 

In the late 1990s, Mikoyan, following their successful MiG-21 upgrade projects, offered a MiG-23-98 upgrade which featured new radar, new self-defense suite, new avionics, improved cockpit ergonomy, helmet-mounted sight, and the capability to fire Vympel R-27 and Vympel R-77 missiles.

 

To me the mention of "new self-defense suite" and "improved cockpit ergonomy" indicates a more sophisticated "full upgrade" proposal along the lines of MiG-29SMT, while this...

Smaller upgrades were also offered, which consisted of only improving the existing Sapfir-23 with newer missiles and upgrades of other avionics.

 

..to me it sounds more like the "HUD only" configuration you talk about.

 

Anyway, good luck with your project :)

[=OPS=Slider]

I just took a look on MiG-23s cockpit, and I have to say, it looks very, very similar to MiG-21 pit, I think you can use it at least for now, unless you will make your custom cockpit. I think it's not against the rules, or copyright issues.

[cubanace]

Well yes that was the point I was trying to make. I can well imagine a "HUD-only" cockpit as long as we are talking a relatively simple radar/WCS upgrade allowing it to use "new" air-to-air missiles like those employed by the MiG-29 - i.e. the MiG-29 doesn't make much use of its IPV for that purpose either.

 

But I cannot see the feasibility(possibility actually) of advanced features such as radar ground mapping modes/associated weaponry and TV opticals/armament with only the HUD as interface.

 

The quote you posted was a little excessive(lol), so I condensed it to the paragraphs concerning the proposed MiG-23-98 upgrade and highlighted a couple of passages:

 

 

 

To me the mention of "new self-defense suite" and "improved cockpit ergonomy" indicates a more sophisticated "full upgrade" proposal along the lines of MiG-29SMT, while this...

 

 

..to me it sounds more like the "HUD only" configuration you talk about.

 

Anyway, good luck with your project :)

 

 

Yes i got a bit carried away lol,wanted to show you a bit of background versions on the Mig.:D

[legitscoper]

Is it for now possible to make air to ground radar for both kh-31a and for a2a? Or we will have to wait for f/a 18 to use it's avionics?

 

Wysłane z mojego SM-A500FU przy użyciu Tapatalka

[cubanace]

Is it for now possible to make air to ground radar for both kh-31a and for a2a? Or we will have to wait for f/a 18 to use it's avionics?

 

Wysłane z mojego SM-A500FU przy użyciu Tapatalka

we have to wait.

[RAZBAM_ELMO]

He already talked with Wags, just some post over you:

I didn't see that. Well that sounds promising then.

 

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[cubanace]

Here is the Latest build of the Mig-23-98 Theme,Menu, New Icon and loading screen along with arming screen and weapons preview enjoy.

 

This build has the Su-25 cockpit with mig-29 avionics and advance armament in the making.

 

everything is work in progress.

 

 

 

[kdc]

So when do you think you might release an alpha version for all to see and admire ???

[cubanace]

So when do you think you might release an alpha version for all to see and admire ???

 

Maybe tuesday,because i been really bussy with the F-16 Block 52 and updating the Pak Fa.

[flyingscotsman]

:pilotfly::pilotfly:Tuesday's fine....my day off Wednesday

[cubanace]

"NEWS" regarding my stratedy.

 

All the None Official modules will have an early alpha release so that you guys can help out by telling me The bugs,glitches,performance Problems you guys might find.

 

So keep in mind that you guys will be testing really early stages of my work but at the same time you guys will see first hand how they all improve and change.

 

"MODULES"

 

I have locked my work at 3 modules ...

That way i can provide a better experience to you the dcs community, i should stick to only one module at a time but i am forcing my self so that i can get used to the pressure of managing projects as this forces me to actually learn more.

 

"UPDTATES"

 

I will Continue posting previews of the builds in the coming days, may you all have a great day and happy flying.

 

"MODULES UNDER DEVELOPMENT"

F-16C Block 52+

 

Mig-23 98

 

The Pak Fa Project ( Early Alpha Released)...

[flanker1]

very good news!!! :-)

[frixon28]

F16C BLK 52?? I thought the plan was to focus on the MiG-23? Will you eventually build a new cockpit for the 23? Not to get personal but I feel like the 23-98 due to its simplified nature could be "fully released" to us in a very high quality of state. Just my 2 cents.

Edited April 28, 2017 by frixon28

[Tirak]

I would rethink doing the F-16C. There is no FC3 aircraft that can hope to in any way model the capabilities of the aircraft. I would instead suggest you do an earlier block so you can more 'faithfully' represent it.

[Robert31178]

A proper Viper would be neato!!

[frixon28]

I would rethink doing the F-16C. There is no FC3 aircraft that can hope to in any way model the capabilities of the aircraft. I would instead suggest you do an earlier block so you can more 'faithfully' represent it.

 

+1,

Honestly I cant see anything really past a mid A model in FC3 configuration. Just way to much stuff. Anyway I hope you continue pushing the 23-98 hard Cubanace, your work is great!

[cubanace]

F16C BLK 52?? I thought the plan was to focus on the MiG-23? Will you eventually build a new cockpit for the 23? Not to get personal but I feel like the 23-98 due to its simplified nature could be "fully released" to us in a very high quality of state. Just my 2 cents.

 

 

The Mig-23 98 is coming , i already did the core of the mod Lua, scripts ,themes ex now i am working hard on the new model and cockpit to showcase the new cockpit ingame soon, no worries F-16 comes second.

[frixon28]

The Mig-23 98 is coming , i already did the core of the mod Lua, scripts ,themes ex now i am working hard on the new model and cockpit to showcase the new cockpit ingame soon, no worries F-16 comes second.

 

Thanks for the clarification :thumbup:

[=OPS=Slider]

F-16 was mentioned some time ago in PAK-FA thread by me. Cubanace said he will made it :).

[cubanace]

MIG-23 98 EARLY RELEASE BUILD....READY!!!!

 

 

Here is the First Early Release of the Mig-23 98,This is a Really Early Stage Work done on the Mig 23 Core,so Report Bugs and Glitches,This First build Uses Original external model of the mig 23 from DCS and the Su-25 Cockpit. while i continue on the new External and New Cockpit of the mig.

 

 

This Variant of the Mig-23 98 brings New Air to Air Weapons,

The R-27 and R-73,the R-24 do not fire due to it not been coded yet.

 

 

Also there are A few Bombs and Rockets for you guys to do Air to ground Attack,i will be Adding More weapons Soon on the next Build Enjoy and Remember to Report any bugs .

"NOTE"

This Build Includes New Base Menu Screen and Theme Song Along with a custom Arming Screen Along with a new Textures Pack for the MIg 23,you can find them at Additional Skins folder.

 

 

 

 

MIG-23 98 DROPBOX DOWNLOAD LINK.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mxsdlxsyn4gdqgv/AAB1dVmwx-y60F7Oq0B6fzL-a?dl=0

Edited May 1, 2017 by cubanace

[assafm25]

Great looking model !!!

 

Jest found some bug on the Mig-21 cockpit

i see 2 HUD's

 

 

and some Photos from first test

[cubanace]

Great looking model !!!

 

Jest found some bug on the Mig-21 cockpit

i see 2 HUD's

 

 

and some Photos from first test

 

Theres two Huds because its using the Mig-29 avionics and Su-25 pit, as soon as i add the new 3d cockpit i will remove second hud.

Edited May 2, 2017 by cubanace

[assafm25]

Theres two Huds because its using the Mig-29 avionics and Su-25 pit, assoon as i add the new 3d cockpit i will remove second hud.

 

 

Great To know

 

cant stop flying it :)