urze Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 Hello! Today I started my three week vacation (!!!) and i am in the mood to start a new projekt to bring my rig up to date for Black shark. Im thinking of a collective-mod for the Saitek X45. I want to put an full working collective on my throttle. Just similar to this: *befor someone asks me: Its PHOTOSHOPED , there is no such Profileditor from Saitek!* I thik it can work if I put switchabel bypasses from the saitek-throttle sliders and buttons to the new lever with electronical parts of an old joystick.Maybe with working collihat! Question: Did someone something similar with his saitek and can you post your result? I am glad for every hint, before I mess up my throttle. :) Here some pics of things i have already done: My ruder contains an old 10€ gamepad . The rest is just a little work It took me a weekend to complete it. It works very precisely about one and a half years now! I only have to grease it from time to time. Ruder: http://www.250kb.de/u/061212/j/aace572b.jpg Behind the magic: http://www.250kb.de/u/061212/j/7024cfdd.jpg Keyboard device: http://www.250kb.de/u/061212/j/7596f400.jpg my "computer": http://www.250kb.de/u/061212/j/25dbfa95.jpg Leftside Limited - ideas and solutions
golfsierra2 Posted December 12, 2006 Posted December 12, 2006 Affentittengeiles Gerät !! Urze, you did a marvelous job ! Sehr schön ! Hope you will make the collective work as planned. kind regards, Raven.... [sigpic]http://www.crc-mindreader.de/CRT/images/Birds2011.gif[/sigpic]
urze Posted December 12, 2006 Author Posted December 12, 2006 WIP:...Three bottles of beer later... ...I had found what I`m locking for: http://www.saitek.com/row/prod/progamer.htm *4-way analog hat switch *20 buttons including space, shift function and 3 mode states for up to 144 programmable commands New setup: *befor someone asks me: Its PHOTOSHOPED , there is no such Profileditor from Saitek!* 1 Leftside Limited - ideas and solutions
urze Posted December 14, 2006 Author Posted December 14, 2006 Work In Progress Today my "new toy" has arrived. "Look and feel" is very solid. Checked it about 20min in Halflife2 -and I must say it makes playing very compfortable! Another half hour later: saitek command unit is now in singel parts and I managed it without any problems to remove the parts which i dont need for the collective. Than I started to built a functional dummy: All is fitting right and I can still operate the 4-way analog hat switch easy with my thumb. (please excuse the poor image quali - I used a webcam.) The dummy worked very well in FS2004 and it was a whole new experience to fly a helicopter now with a collectiv. Now I am thinking of an solution how i create a switchable bypass to a slider of the X45 for making a funktional throttle on the collectiv, because the saitek-command-pro-unit has no sliders on it. Site about hellicopter controls: http://www.thaitechnics.com/helicopter/heli_control.html Thats all for now! - hope u enjoy this post. Leftside Limited - ideas and solutions
ED Team Groove Posted December 15, 2006 ED Team Posted December 15, 2006 Looks very promising ! You will succeed ! Bleib dran :) Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
Capt.LoneRanger Posted December 15, 2006 Posted December 15, 2006 Cool! :thumbup: Ich glaub, ich fang auch mal wieder an zu basteln, wenn ich das sehe. Gute Arbeit und saugute Ideen!
urze Posted January 6, 2007 Author Posted January 6, 2007 Just finished! Tomorrow I will ad a little tutorial with comments. Good night!:sleep: 1 Leftside Limited - ideas and solutions
zorlac Posted January 6, 2007 Posted January 6, 2007 wow! OK, I`m impressed... I think its time to find an old x45 on ebay :)
urze Posted January 6, 2007 Author Posted January 6, 2007 wow! OK, I`m impressed... I think its time to find an old x45 on ebay :) Thanks for comment and rep,zorlac! :) You are not bound to an x45, this hardwaremod will work with nearly any throttle device. Leftside Limited - ideas and solutions
7POKYPOP Posted January 6, 2007 Posted January 6, 2007 Cool:thumbup: Core I7-2600/12Gb/GeForceGTX1650Super/1.6Tb/ Defender Cobra M5+ Gametrix ECS+Saitek Rudder pedals+FreeTrack
zorlac Posted January 6, 2007 Posted January 6, 2007 Tomorrow I will ad a little tutorial with comments I cant wait.... am very intersted in try this.
urze Posted January 6, 2007 Author Posted January 6, 2007 Tutorial : Collective Hardware Mod Sorry! No tutorial any more! Things have changed a little bit: See you in Brussels at the Simware Show 2-4.11.07! :) About price: Wait for the "official announcement" (Uh..,sounds familiar to me... :lol:) This thread will soon be closed! Discussion will be moved to the DCS-Black Shark Forum. :clap:Thanks to the community an Eagle Dynamics that made it possible!:clap: 2 Leftside Limited - ideas and solutions
VMFA117_Poko Posted January 7, 2007 Posted January 7, 2007 :thumbup: please post comments to this link: http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?p=281821#post281821 :)rgr
VMFA117_Poko Posted January 7, 2007 Posted January 7, 2007 :thumbup: please post comments to this link: http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?p=281821#post281821 :)rgr. Congrats - good job :thumbup: .
ED Team Groove Posted January 7, 2007 ED Team Posted January 7, 2007 awesome ! Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
urze Posted January 7, 2007 Author Posted January 7, 2007 Answer to a question from warthogmadman987 Well my main question would be is does the collective have all those keys and buttons on it, like a joystick does. I ask because it would be easy for me to put a stick type deal onto my x52 but i dont really have the money to mess with getting that keyboard, taking it apart (probably breaking it in the process). I want to know if it is at all realistic just to put a stick there with may a button or 2. Yea! First time i was thinking of a 4 button collective. It is fully sufficient for civil traffic. Leftside Limited - ideas and solutions
FVMAD Posted January 7, 2007 Posted January 7, 2007 :helpsmilie: can someone of the russian side help me to translate it. so I can post the tutorial also on the russian sector?:helpsmilie: The fact is that I'm living in the west part of berlin. If I had neighbors from the east i would go next door to a neighbor (that lives in east berlin before 1989) and ask him. But I don't have. So can anyone help me to save time? We're looking after ya :) http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=20684
Vekkinho Posted January 7, 2007 Posted January 7, 2007 Here's the photo of Mil-6 stick and throttle. P.S. That's my father in the background. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
warthogmadman987 Posted January 7, 2007 Posted January 7, 2007 So how much would i cost to make one of those? Or is there a place where i can a collective?
urze Posted January 7, 2007 Author Posted January 7, 2007 Originally Posted by warthogmadman987 at http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=20698 does anyone know what the collective would look like ingame for BS? Is there a pic or vid that clearly shows it? I would like to see it. This is a ingame screenshot of the black shark collective. This link will bring you to the video: http://www.virtual-jabog32.de/index.php?section=downloads&subcat=28&file=400&lang=en&PHPSESSID=b43e3b547833303ad2e3a24cb3344f78 The real one: Leftside Limited - ideas and solutions
urze Posted January 8, 2007 Author Posted January 8, 2007 Would you purchase a unit for BlackSark if I make it available for the community? -Just a thought: My brother (he is a metal worker) would help me to built ready to use metal rods. So I would estimate the costs at 70-80€. I would ship it like this : :) Please vote! at this thread: http://forum.lockon.ru/showthread.php?t=20698 In case you vote with "yes" just pm me! Leftside Limited - ideas and solutions
urze Posted January 9, 2007 Author Posted January 9, 2007 To leave no doubt that you have a good handling of the switches, I made a short video of the collective in action: http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-8598457868554044921 1 Leftside Limited - ideas and solutions
Willy p. Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Question urze, What affect does the end portion of the collective (meaning add weight ) have on the friction screws ability to maintain it’s position…meaning, if I pull the collective all the way up will the end weight pull it back down? And by the way, great work! rep inbound 44th_Willy p. 187 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://44thvfw.org
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