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[Radial9]

Hello… I introduced myself to the community a few weeks ago on the Tutorial & Guides forum. Looking at retirement the next few years. Have been flying (FSX) for over a decade, although not in the last two years. I have my real PL but am not current. Found DSC and am rapidly falling down the rabbit hole here. I have spent a few dozen hours over the past few weeks reading forum posts, a few of the recent builds here, Chucks Tutorial Guides for the Spit, A10c and Huey and have watched hours of Youtube video’s each evening while the wife watches murder and mayhem on TV. Yup, down the rabbit hole.

 

I have the following stack of boxes siting here. In no particular order:

 

Intel 7700K

Asus Maximus IX Hero

Corsair 32G 3466 DRAM

Fractal Design Define R5 Case

Corsair H100i V2 Cooler

DVD Burner

Samsung 960 1T M.2 SSD

Samsung 850 1TB SSD

Seagate 3T HD

Asus ROG GeForce GTX 1080Ti -011G Strix GPU

Corsair 1000W 80 Plus Gold

BenQ 4K 32” Monitor

Logitech G910 Gaming Keyboard

Logitech G502 Gaming Mouse

I have both Win7 and Win10, not sure if I will do one or the other, or dual boot. FSX P3DV4

 

I have built 5 computers over the past 15 years, but I have never OCed one. Going to give this one the shot.

 

I have a CH yoke, THQ and pedals. I have over a 1K hours in the MAAM DC3 along with hundreds in a Beaver. Still undecided about a new HOTAS for DCS. Probably a TM Warthog, but want to make sure I can learn to refold aluminum onto the ground in a helicopter and the Spit along with the A10c.

 

So… I sit here with crumpled up aviator hat in hand hoping as I get into this and the feces hits the oscillating device during this build, which it will, I might have here a resource to assist putting together my toys. I’m going to make an educated guess that I might be sticking around the community over the next few years, or longer.

 

First question: Would anyone suggest some basic big picture resources to wrap my head around the OC process for a complete noob. What monitoring software, what to look out for, examples to follow. I can, and will, RTFM and take the time to educate myself. I’m going to start putting the hardware together this weekend. I will get a stable OS before I begin to wander into OC land. Just need to begin lining up some resources to begin to wrap my head around the process. I have bookmarked a few Youtube sites and some guides, but most are for builders who are more experienced with OCing.

 

I have a bunch of other DCS related questions too that I have written down that so far I have not found answers for, but they can wait until this build is father along.

 

Thanks for any help here. It is greatly appreciated.

 

Radial9, AKA Bob

[Hawkeye60]

Just want to tell you that once you get this BEAST up and running,

 

You need to add a RIFT!

 

MUST HAVE !

 

You have NO idea how deep the rabbit hole goes.................:D

 

Oh, and welcome to my obsession! And the forums!

 

(Don't worry, there is plenty of obsession to go around!)

Edited July 6, 2017 by Hawkeye60

[dburne]

Welcome, that is going to be one sweet rig there!

 

You are going to have a great system, and you should be able to overclock that puppy without too much effort by just upping the cpu multiplier for each core.

 

Main thing is to get it built, Windows installed ( I would recommend Windows 10), and running stable first. Then go ahead and get DCS installed and running.

 

Then, you can take your time and gradually start upping the cpu multiplier, testing in between each step. I in the past have used Prime 95 for this - but my last build was in Dec 2013.

 

I have had my rig overclocked to 4.50 GHz running rock solid since I built it - I too have the Corsair H100i closed loop cooler, it has been a great cooler for me. Only reason I have not done a new build yet, is this one is running so sweet. Probably will next year.

 

Just take your time this weekend with the build, check, double check, then triple check all of your connections before powering that baby up the first time. Take your time with this. Once you are confident it is assembled properly, turn that power switch on and then listen for that short post beep - it is a wonderful sound!

 

Btw , I retired about a year and a half ago, it is a wonderful thing!

 

Best of luck,

Edited July 6, 2017 by dburne

[Django]

What monitoring software

 

Looks like a nice rig! Best to stick with Win10 for Kaby Lake build, also I believe that some versions of Win7-64 can't use 32GB of RAM.

Q) Why a 1TB M.2 and a 1TB SATA SSD? Is one for OS and one for Flightsim, or do you have other uses for the system? OS will easily fit on a 256GB M.2 drive.

 

I've never OCed a Kaby Lake CPU and I'd say my computing skills are "intermediate" but below are some free tools I've used for OCing in the past:

System information / monitoring

CPU-Z

HWMonitor

GPU-Z

Temp monitoring

Core Temp... currently using this myself.

Real Temp

Stress testing... I know some people think the first two provide unrealistically large system thermal loads.

Intel Burn Test... can't find the original developers site??? Anyway just Google for links.

Prime95

Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool... found this by chance - never used it but might be useful.

OCCT

Graphics card utilities

Nvidia Inspector... not sure if DCS benefits from this??? Google for links.

Display Driver Uninstaller... use when updating or trying different display drivers.

 

Hope some of these might be helpful. !!!For goodness sake read your M/B manual fully before OCing anything!!! :).

Edited July 7, 2017 by Django

[BitMaster]

I would make sure the 32" is a Gsync model, that really makes a difference imho.

 

Other than that, nice built !

[JINX_1391]

 

Intel 7700K

Asus Maximus IX Hero

Corsair 32G 3466 DRAM

Fractal Design Define R5 Case

Corsair H100i V2 Cooler

DVD Burner

Samsung 960 1T M.2 SSD

Samsung 850 1TB SSD

Seagate 3T HD

Asus ROG GeForce GTX 1080Ti -011G Strix GPU

Corsair 1000W 80 Plus Gold

BenQ 4K 32” Monitor

Logitech G910 Gaming Keyboard

Logitech G502 Gaming Mouse

I have both Win7 and Win10, not sure if I will do one or the other, or dual boot. FSX P3DV4

 

OC? This may not be the popular route - but I honestly don't think you'll need to OC. The rig above more than out performs anything you'll see in DCS. I run something very similar (my GPU is a GTX-970; the only performance difference) and I get 70-90 FPS with everything graphics wise cranked all the way up, down low, on the Vegas strip, looking out the cockpit, recording my flight, live streaming on Youtube, on MP, in TS, browsing the internet on my other screen.....you get my point.

 

I say build it; install DCS, and take a look how the rig performs before you start ramping up the CPU. But I get it....that fancy "K" dangling out there; like the throttle break right before you push it past into afterburner.

[Radial9]

Thank you for the comments.

 

Between P3D, FSX, and DSC and looking down the road 2T of SSD should keep my environments separated. I know scenery gets pulled from the magnetic drive as needed so no big issue there with the amount of ram I’m installing. I have a sh$$load of ORBX scenery for my loved DC3. There is more to come. Looking forward to South America coming out this year.

 

I keep hearing about this “Star Citizen” as I read reviews and watch Youtube. Had to go out and look. I was most interested in seeing the crowdsourcing record it set. I have a 8 year old grandson that lives close by. Perhaps grandpa will have to “oversee” the development of the young lads training.

[Konovalov]

Hi Radial9,

 

Welcome to the community.

 

You certainly have some nice components for your build with plenty of scope for overclocking. I would second Bitmaster on making sure that your monitor has GSync capability. This makes a massive difference to the whole gaming experience.

 

As far as overclocking guides there is an official Asus ROG one that is probably a good starting point: https://rog.asus.com/articles/guides/the-kaby-lake-overclocking-guide/

[Radial9]

A few weeks later and the build is up and running. I had a bad MB. The MB would not read any memory. ASUS was great. They determined it needed to go back. A week later they sent me a new board. Works great!

 

I used the ASUS 4.5ghz profile and have it running tests to make sure all is OK. The board temp under load is reading 58-61 C.

 

This is going to be quite the noob question. I got 3200mhz Corsair sticks, 32G. When fired up and running the BIOS tells me they are running at 2400mhz. Is there a utility or someplace in the BIOS that I can turn them up near 3200? I have never juiced a system before and just need to go slowly on this.

 

Going to start of with the A10c once things settle down.

 

Any suggestions on the ram sticks would be greatly appreciated.

 

Cheers!

[DocSigma]

A few weeks later and the build is up and running. I had a bad MB. The MB would not read any memory. ASUS was great. They determined it needed to go back. A week later they sent me a new board. Works great!

 

I used the ASUS 4.5ghz profile and have it running tests to make sure all is OK. The board temp under load is reading 58-61 C.

 

This is going to be quite the noob question. I got 3200mhz Corsair sticks, 32G. When fired up and running the BIOS tells me they are running at 2400mhz. Is there a utility or someplace in the BIOS that I can turn them up near 3200? I have never juiced a system before and just need to go slowly on this.

 

Going to start of with the A10c once things settle down.

 

Any suggestions on the ram sticks would be greatly appreciated.

 

Cheers!

 

My system is rather old, and the ram frequency is tied to the cpu bus, so in order to get my sticks running close to the listed specs ( ddr3 1600) I either have to enable the X.M.P profile or adjust the timings and frequency manually in my bios. You're system is brand new and a beast I might add, but I'd try just enabling the X.M.P profile in your bios and that should get your sticks recognized at their listed frequency and timings. Before you do that though, make sure your board supports your sticks - brand,frequency, timings, voltages.

[Konovalov]

Hi Radial9,

 

As mentioned above you will need to enable in your BIOS the SMP profile. This is the easiest and quickest way. It is currently running at "safe" JEDEC rated speed which is pretty much what all motherboards do as part of the stock/default BIOS settings.

[rogonaut]

Asus AI suite 3 does have a nice and easy overclocking function. its just a button press and i run my 6700K on 4500 MHz instead of 4000 MHz