The SU-30 FAMILY PROJECT is Back

[happy cavin]

when we can fly it in dcsw?

[FlankerMan]

Um, any updates? I haven't heard from anybody (except happy cavin) in a while. How's it going?

 

Just a side note: what sort of top speed at high level are you guys giving the Su-30MKI/MKA/SM? I think it's supposed to be around Mach 1.9, which brings this to mind: why does the built-in DCS Su-30MK (I'm pretty sure it's MK) have a top speed at high level of Mach 2.35? I think it's actually Mach 2.0, like the Su-30MKK/MK2/M2.

 

I don't know anything about modding, and I doubt you'd need me, but I'd be happy to look in my books and online and try to do some research on the real things, if you want.

[JABO2009]

I think the only one who can state, if this Mod is still alive is SkateZilla and/or Combatace/Gizmondo.

 

 

As it has been a while that the mentioned ones gave an update here, my hope for this thing to be seen in the public declines.. .

[Sport]

I think the only one who can state, if this Mod is still alive is SkateZilla and/or Combatace/Gizmondo.

 

 

As it has been a while that the mentioned ones gave an update here, my hope for this thing to be seen in the public declines.. .

 

They're busy with other projects. Just because they're not working on this one at this very second, doesn't mean that they won't come back to it. A little patience goes a long way...

[Gizmondo]

Sorry guys i have no real updates. i will post if i have news

[patrick412]

Will be waiting for that news !

 

 

could use the su30 :P

[Askerov24]

Alright, Skatezilla, Gizmondo, any news? The Su-30SM is my second favorite aircraft, next to the Su-35S. Any reasons for the delay in updates?

 

A few Su-30SM-related questions:

 

1-Is there an Su-30SM2?

 

2-Is there an Su-30SM3?

 

3-What about an Su-27SM2, does that exist?

 

These questions are not about the mod, but about the real versions. BTW, will there be any new variants of the R-77 (RVV-AE), like maybe the R-77-1 (RVV-SD)?

 

1. No

 

2. No

 

3. Yes

[Gizmondo]

The su-27SM is an upgraded version of the Su-27, the SM3 is the same but built new rather than a mid-life upgrade.

 

the su-27SM2 was initially supposed to reffer to the SU-35 but was not really applied

 

For the MOD, it is not dead we are slowely working ont it and correcting bugs. and we work on the cockpit too but there is an issu because it is based on Bearstudio Su-30 cockpit that we modified, i don't think that we will be able to make it public (question of copyrights) i don't know how it's gonna end-up.

[EAKMotorsports]

that was sad news...no public realease.

[Gizmondo]

that was sad news...no public realease.

Maybe not the cockpit , but the external model yes

[SkateZilla]

I have been tweaking somethings on the model on my end, but no where near ready to tackle the large to-do list of major changes for 2.5.

 

once I get the free time, Progress will be a lot quicker...

[Sport]

Maybe you could make it paid?

 

That's not how copyrights work...

 

The issue is they do not have the original author's permission to distribute. Selling it makes it illegal and they can have a civil lawsuit filed against them

[Gizmondo]

I don't make people pay for something i didn't make

[ST0RM]

Oh, it's because it Combatace's, and you're just improving it, right? I understand.

 

No, he said it is from BearStudios. They made aircraft for FSX. This being one of them.

CombatAce is a website community that does have modded and freeware aircraft for various sims.

[SkateZilla]

No mods are allowed to be paid.

[FlankerMan]

I understand everything now, thanks for clearing things up. I'd love to fly it, but still just seeing the Su-30MKI/MKA/SM in DCS would be cool. BTW, Skatezilla, in the 'User Files' section of DCS.com you can search within parameters, and paid/free is one of the options, even though no prices are listed anywhere. Why, then, do you say no mods are even allowed to be paid? Not saying you're wrong, just confused.

[ST0RM]

Why, then, do you say no mods are even allowed to be paid? Not saying you're wrong, just confused.

 

Because mods are typically "modifications" of proprietary software or that may use parts of it. You cant sell what others have created.

[SkateZilla]

You cant sell anything without a License Agreement from Eagle Dynamics to do so.

 

Regardless of whether it's a "Mod" or a entirely unique "Module".

[Zabuzard]

Honestly, I don't get the confusion.

 

If you want to mod a game you should just read their ToS and similar agreements, usually it is all stated there. In case of DCS modding see the End-User License Agreement (link), section 4. Especially paragraph 4.1.(b):

 

(b) if you decide to make available the use of the New Game Materials created by you to others, you agree to do so solely without charge, unless with prior approval and a licence from TFC. This includes selling of the New Game Material(s), donations, Kickstarter funding, and any other means in which funds are transferred to you for your New Game Materials. All such work must remain Freeware;

 

The other paragraphs in this section are also relevant to this topic. The terms should be crystal clear.

Edited March 2, 2018 by Zabuza

[Hussainb72]

hey Gizmondo, can i get a download link for the su 30 mod plz

your work is amazing

thanks

[r2-d2]

[FlankerMan]

AWESOME!!! That's my favorite scheme, to. I like the Su-30SM, Su-34, and Su-35 in a nice black.

[Gizmondo]

Hello Guys, I think it's time to advance on the project,I managed to finish almost all the skins but we need a good 3D modeller to correct bugs and issues with our Model. and another one to create spec textures from the template.

any Volunteers??

[Flanker rider]

Hey Cuban, is there any chance you could help out a little?

[SkateZilla]

I have finally gotten some spare time coming up, so I will start on the list I had posted earlier:

 

-PBR Roughness/Metallic maps w/ A.O.

(Specular Maps are no longer needed w/ 2.5, Converting Everything to PBR w/ A.O. is quicker, easier and more accurate than Specular Maps.)

 

-Converting all textures to Composite Materials, removing EXTRA Materials.

(Making them layered with Damage/Bort/Bunos Numbers Etc)

 

-Deleting the extra damage meshes, Converting to Current Damage Animation Setup

(Deleting all the Holes/Damage Meshes and converting them to damage volume layer w/ more realistic looking damage)

 

-Cutting Meshes for Current Damage Animations.

(Might not need to be done, will evaluate when I remove the old damage meshes).

 

-Cutting Meshes for Current Aircraft Number Animations.

(Removing the Bort Meshes and integrating them into a composite layer w/ the base texture)

 

-Updated Animations to Current DCS Standards,

(A few animations need updated, nothing major)

 

-Updated Connection Points for Pylons, Effects Etc

(Adding some new connectors, and re-vamping current ones, for use w/ new weapons setup etc)

 

-Updated Lighting (Textures and Actual Lights),

(Adding Actual Light Sources, removing the overdone billboard meshes, adding self-illuminating textures)

 

-Updated Effects

(Adding Afterburner effects from other projects converted for Eastern Engines and Fuel Burn Color)

(Adding Vapor effects from other projects)

 

-Completely Re-Written LUA Code to today's standard.

(Re-write the LUA from Scratch to avoid old lingering code/valus)

 

-Addon Systems

(Even though these would likely be using FC3/Su-33 Cockpits/Systems, I will be adding a few supplement LUA Scripts to control some animations and Systems better.)

 

-System Setup

(Start From Scratch, Mod Folders to Avoid Extra/Lingering Files Being brought over, Create new UI Elements Etc.)

 

 

The last time I was working on the mesh, there were still several traces of old texture files I was tracking down and removing (no visual effect on the Model, but it messes w/ loading times if it's looking for non-existent textures.).

I will continue to track those down as I progress through the list above.

Edited March 27, 2018 by SkateZilla