T.Eason Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Great news to see this has been located and is being fixed, lets hope the fix comes soon! Mind boggling how not a single tester found this problem beforehand and sorted it...RAZBAM might want to start looking for new testers in the future! But...consistent 60FPS Harrier HYPE!
Zeus67 Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Great to see this found and fixed so quickly. :thumbup: But man, several months of testing and no one even looked at the fps counter. To be honest. Aircraft was extensively tested in 2.3. The FPS drop was noted but the aircraft always had over 60 FPS in cockpit anyway even with multiple aircraft/objects. So, it was not considered that big. When ported to 1.5.8, with old graphic tech, then the problem became more acute. BTW, problem is fixed and solution will be applied on next release. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
Flia Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Is possible to have this fix tommorow ? PC: i7 9700K, 32 GB RAM, RTX 2080 SUPER, Tir 5, Hotas Warthog Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base with VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VKB-SIM T-RUDDER PEDALS MK.IV. Modules : NEVADA, F-5E, M-2000C, BF-109K4, A-10C, FC3, P-51D, MIG-21BIS, MI-8MTV2, F-86F, FW-190D9, UH-1H, L-39, MIG-15BIS, AJS37, SPITFIRE-MKIX, AV8BNA, PERSIAN GULF, F/A-18C HORNET, YAK-52, KA-50, F-14,SA342, C-101, F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier,I-16,MIG-19P, P-47D,A-10C_II
Zeus67 Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Is possible to have this fix tommorow ? That's on ED. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
.Tigre. Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Thanks you, great support :thumbup: :pilotfly:
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Sweet, thanks a lot Zeus :) Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
S-GERAT Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 To be honest. Aircraft was extensively tested in 2.3. The FPS drop was noted but the aircraft always had over 60 FPS in cockpit anyway even with multiple aircraft/objects. So, it was not considered that big. When ported to 1.5.8, with old graphic tech, then the problem became more acute. BTW, problem is fixed and solution will be applied on next release. If the problem is fixed, Can't you ask the fixed files to ED and upload as a hotfix while the patch comes ? It has been done before with other modules.. Thanks in advance
Flia Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 yes yes. Thx Zeus for quick support. PC: i7 9700K, 32 GB RAM, RTX 2080 SUPER, Tir 5, Hotas Warthog Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base with VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VKB-SIM T-RUDDER PEDALS MK.IV. Modules : NEVADA, F-5E, M-2000C, BF-109K4, A-10C, FC3, P-51D, MIG-21BIS, MI-8MTV2, F-86F, FW-190D9, UH-1H, L-39, MIG-15BIS, AJS37, SPITFIRE-MKIX, AV8BNA, PERSIAN GULF, F/A-18C HORNET, YAK-52, KA-50, F-14,SA342, C-101, F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier,I-16,MIG-19P, P-47D,A-10C_II
Spudknocker Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Explanation for FPS drop: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3305607&postcount=2 Wow! That is kinda what I thought the issue was just from pure guesswork and speculation! Awesome to know the cause was nailed down! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Spudknocker DCS World YouTube Channel!! RTX 2080 Ti - i7-7700K - 32GB RAM - DCS on 1TB EVO 970 M.2 SSD - Logitech X56 HOTAS
Rlaxoxo Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 I really don't want to wait for a week for a fix = ( [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
PabstBleuRibbon Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 I can feel RAZBAM's frustration from where I am sitting, that is a rough bug, especially in the context of 2.5 being weeks away. The day the devs can close the 1.5.x branch and never look at it again they are going to celebrate.
Redglyph Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 I can feel RAZBAM's frustration from where I am sitting, that is a rough bug, especially in the context of 2.5 being weeks away. The day the devs can close the 1.5.x branch and never look at it again they are going to celebrate. Well, not too soon hopefully, many of us don't have a system poweful enough for what 2.x requires ;) It must be frustrating but it's apparently a potential problem they noticed, chances are with a more serious load (DLC campaign with many aircraft...) this would have come up anyway. In any case, no one would expect an early release to go perfectly smoothly, it's just an FPS drop after all. What's already there more than makes up for that! :) System specs: Win7 x64 | CPU: i7-4770K | RAM: 16 GB | GPU: GTX 980 Ti 6 GB | Thrustmaster HOTAS | MFG rudder pedals | SATA3 SSD | TrackIR
DZShizzam Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Well, not too soon hopefully, many of us don't have a system poweful enough for what 2.x requires ;) I have a low end rig, and my PC runs 2.1 just as well as 1.5.x I'm guessing that if anything, 2.5 will be BETTER optimized. Hopefully that helps ease your concerns :)
Spudknocker Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 I find that FPS is better on average in 2.1 than in any of the versions of 1.5, Although I do have a higher end system. Before I got it I did realize that 2.1 was unplayable with a laptop or lower end system. I hope this bug can be fixed quickly! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Spudknocker DCS World YouTube Channel!! RTX 2080 Ti - i7-7700K - 32GB RAM - DCS on 1TB EVO 970 M.2 SSD - Logitech X56 HOTAS
Rolfey Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Awesome news, can't wait for the next update :) Also can't wait for us all to get our hands on it over the NTTR :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Member of AEF | 161 SQN 3D Modeler, Texture Artist, Designer, Flight Simmer:joystick: Check out my liveries :http://www.jrolfedesign.com/texture.html PC Specs:i7 3770k @ 4.3Ghz, EVGA GTX1080ti Black Edition, 16GB Adata XPG 2133Mhz, 1x 128GB SSD [OS and work programs], 1x 240GB SSD [DCS World install], 1x 2TB HDD [Data and games], 1x 500GB HDD [Video recording], VKB Gladiator Joystick
Redglyph Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 I have a low end rig, and my PC runs 2.1 just as well as 1.5.x I'm guessing that if anything, 2.5 will be BETTER optimized. Hopefully that helps ease your concerns :) That's surprising, but what do you mean by low-end? It's very relative ;) Have you tried the Epsom campaign? For my part it's simply not possible. I have no big problems with a single airplane or even a few aircraft around, but there's a lot of stuttering with a full-scale campaign, and it's regularly below 20 FPS with periods of noticeable freezes. Another example is the antialiasing: without it the performances are better but it looks very bad. With AA, unfortunately, the framerate is quite impacted. And this is permanent, even with no other traffic, it's just the scenery. From the long threads in which people were trying to tune the settings and improve that, I'm not alone to experience this. It will surely be better optimized than now, for sure, but how much gain is left... a 980 Ti is not enough, and a recent processor is definitely mandatory. So if 1.5 can live a little while longer, I won't complain :) System specs: Win7 x64 | CPU: i7-4770K | RAM: 16 GB | GPU: GTX 980 Ti 6 GB | Thrustmaster HOTAS | MFG rudder pedals | SATA3 SSD | TrackIR
Zodiac Posted December 1, 2017 Posted December 1, 2017 As written in the official thread I have to confirm poor performance on Harrier. With my setting i have a rock solid 60fps in both 1.5 and 2.1, with every plane i have (A10C, F-5, FC3) and in every situations. Using Harrier my fps drops between 20/25 in cockpit view. +1 Low FPS in cockpit
Wangler Posted December 1, 2017 Posted December 1, 2017 Cockpit textures are 4k x 4k, most modules are 2k x 2k. Am trying Ordenator-modified textures, which reduces total cockpit texture memory requirement by over half. Cockpit still looks good, need more testing to see if frames are improved. Of course, backed up original textures
Spt Posted December 1, 2017 Posted December 1, 2017 there is a hotfix now but nothing about the FPS drop in cokpit ! https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3304547&postcount=61 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Rlaxoxo Posted December 1, 2017 Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) = O! Could be that it's not written EDIT: Tested it out ... It's applied !!! Edited December 1, 2017 by Rlaxoxo [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
Spt Posted December 1, 2017 Posted December 1, 2017 ok seems to be fixed more than 100fps for me without VR but the bug of spawn on LHD from group of 4 Av8 still crash [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Nico71 Posted December 1, 2017 Posted December 1, 2017 Yep much better now! :thumbup: However, it's time to upgrade my 920, that's certain. If, one day, Coffee Lake might become available. :cry_2: System Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit Processor: Intel® Core i7-920 CPU @ 4.0GHz (4 CPUs), Memory: 12 GB RAM Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
Flia Posted December 1, 2017 Posted December 1, 2017 yes yes it was fixed :) PC: i7 9700K, 32 GB RAM, RTX 2080 SUPER, Tir 5, Hotas Warthog Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base with VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VKB-SIM T-RUDDER PEDALS MK.IV. Modules : NEVADA, F-5E, M-2000C, BF-109K4, A-10C, FC3, P-51D, MIG-21BIS, MI-8MTV2, F-86F, FW-190D9, UH-1H, L-39, MIG-15BIS, AJS37, SPITFIRE-MKIX, AV8BNA, PERSIAN GULF, F/A-18C HORNET, YAK-52, KA-50, F-14,SA342, C-101, F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier,I-16,MIG-19P, P-47D,A-10C_II
Zeus67 Posted December 1, 2017 Posted December 1, 2017 there is a hotfix now but nothing about the FPS drop in cokpit ! https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3304547&postcount=61 I wasn't sure about the hot-fix so did not write a changelog. :smartass: Check Known Issues thread to see what has been fixed. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
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