Loadouts come back from the dead

[Northstar98]

Hi everyone,

 

Not sure if this is a bug or an intended feature but last night I was in the mission editor, and because I'm weird I like to have my loadouts named consistently (I like to do by the actual weapon not by intended mission - it forces me to remember which weapon is what, so for instant if I have a Viggen loaded with 2 RB-05As, 2 RB-74s and the External Tank the loadout will be called RB-05A*2, RB-74*2, XT - that's just how I like it). Anyway I started going at it for a few western aircraft by setting the task to nothing, deleting all of the stock loadouts and making my own, however, when I launched DCS today I found that all the loadouts I had deleted had come back from the dead. I can still access the loadouts I created but due to the sheer number of stock loadouts they're buried in or duplicated.

 

I know whenever you download an update DCS brings back the loadouts, but they've come back overnight without an update...

 

Personally as a super petty wish I'd like an option to disable stock loadouts so it's left up to me? Or is there an easy way to delete stock loadouts? (its easy to back up the individual loadouts I've created located in saved games -> DCS -> mission editor -> unit loadouts but that only contains my loadouts, there must be one for stock loadouts - EDIT - In the DCS base installation folder -> CoreMods -> aircraft and theres a UnitPayloads for each (so far I can't find it for the UH-1H, Mil Mi-8MTV2, MiG-15Bis, the FC3 Aircraft, the Su-25T, A-10C, Ka-50 and a few others) - so case sorta closed, I'll keep the thread open just in case anybody has the same issue and needs guidance - unless a moderator feels otherwise...

Edited January 4, 2018 by Northstar98
Found it

[Lixma 06]

I think the abilty to permanently delete stock elements of the game is probably something ED doesn't want to encourage.

 

However, if you want to segregate your custom loadouts from the default then you can name them in such a way that determines where they appear in the loadout/rearming window.

 

If you prefix your loadouts with A (e.g. A_RB-05A*2, RB-74*2) then they'll all appear grouped together at the top of the list. Or if you prefix them with just an _underscore they will appear at the bottom.

[Northstar98]

I think the abilty to permanently delete stock elements of the game is probably something ED doesn't want to encourage.

 

However, if you want to segregate your custom loadouts from the default then you can name them in such a way that determines where they appear in the loadout/rearming window.

 

If you prefix your loadouts with A (e.g. A_RB-05A*2, RB-74*2) then they'll all appear grouped together at the top of the list. Or if you prefix them with just an _underscore they will appear at the bottom.

 

Oh no, I do not wish to permanently deleting, just a "include stock loadouts" checkbox - but is a super petty request.

 

I first started deleting the stock loadouts in the mission editor (loadout section -> the options for add, rename, copy and delete and hitting delete, problem was, when I was closing and reopening DCS the one's I deleted came back again.

 

So far I've just been deleting the loadouts in the base DCS folder, so far with no ill effects - I get my custom loadouts and the stock ones aren't there and don't come back once I've deleted them from the mission editor. (I would've thought deleting the stock loadouts using the mission editor would get rid of them until DCS is updated/repaired whereby however it doesn't and they come back).

 

It's probably not the best or the most sound solution but I am backing everything up just in case. So far its working - although when you're running DCS with a computer of my specifications and age (5 years) it can be difficult to get results. But - I see my custom loadouts and the stock ones don't come back.

Edited January 5, 2018 by Northstar98

[Nealius]

I do something similar, but mainly because many DCS modules have overly heavy and unrealistic payloads.

 

Default payloads are a .lua file found in /DCS World/CoreMods/aircraft/<aircraft name>/UnitPayloads

 

Your custom payloads are a similar .lua file found in /Users/Saved Games/DCS/Mission Editor/UnitPayloads

 

If you want, you can simply replace the default payload .lua with your custom payload .lua. I do it all the time without issue. However, it will be reverted to default whenever you update DCS.

[Yurgon]

If you want, you can simply replace the default payload .lua with your custom payload .lua. I do it all the time without issue.

 

That's all? Man, I wish I'd known that years ago!

 

I keep cursing at the list of loadouts (especially for the A-10C), because there's not a single one I find useful, while mine are always buried.

 

Sounds like it might be worth the time to finally set up some useful loadouts and turn them into an OvGME mod. Thanks a lot! :thumbup:

[Nealius]

I spend entirely way too much time making payloads of a plausibly realistic/practical nature.

[Northstar98]

I do something similar, but mainly because many DCS modules have overly heavy and unrealistic payloads.

 

Default payloads are a .lua file found in /DCS World/CoreMods/aircraft/<aircraft name>/UnitPayloads

 

Your custom payloads are a similar .lua file found in /Users/Saved Games/DCS/Mission Editor/UnitPayloads

 

If you want, you can simply replace the default payload .lua with your custom payload .lua. I do it all the time without issue. However, it will be reverted to default whenever you update DCS.

 

Yeah, that's what I've done, I have no problem doing this each time DCS is updated/repaired - it takes 5 minutes of my life at most.

 

Thanks for the information though Nealius much appreciated :thumbup:

[Yurgon]

Default payloads are a .lua file found in /DCS World/CoreMods/aircraft/<aircraft name>/UnitPayloads

 

I was just checking. None of my DCS installations has an A-10C folder there, and in Mods\Aircraft\A-10C I couldn't find anything resembling the loadouts either.

 

Any idea where I might find the default A-10C loadouts?

[Northstar98]

I was just checking. None of my DCS installations has an A-10C folder there, and in Mods\Aircraft\A-10C I couldn't find anything resembling the loadouts either.

 

Any idea where I might find the default A-10C loadouts?

 

The only other place I can think of is DCS base installation folder - MissionEditor -> Data -> Scripts -> Unit Payloads - I've deleted all of them (which includes AI units). So far no ill effects...

[Yurgon]

The only other place I can think of is DCS base installation folder - MissionEditor -> Data -> Scripts -> Unit Payloads - I've deleted all of them (which includes AI units). So far no ill effects...

 

You, sir, are a genius! :thumbup:

 

Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for!