Ironhand Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 Tried to use the ME this morning with 2.5 and finally gave up. Selected the Caucasus map and got a blue screen with air bases marked. After waiting awhile, no textures of any sort had loaded. I have always had a similar experience with 2.2 but the wait time, in this case, seems much longer. How long is it taking for other people's textures to load into the Editor? YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
toutenglisse Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 First, I don't know why, but ME or mission launch loading times are way shorter with deffered shaddings on (with DS off it's super long). Second, as soon as ME is loaded, even with only blue map, you have to click an icon (for exemple load icon or any unit icon) and so all the textures appear. If you just wait I don't know how long it can be...
grunf Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 Tried to use the ME this morning with 2.5 and finally gave up. Selected the Caucasus map and got a blue screen with air bases marked. After waiting awhile, no textures of any sort had loaded. I have always had a similar experience with 2.2 but the wait time, in this case, seems much longer. How long is it taking for other people's textures to load into the Editor? The textures load after about 10s. My specs are similar to yours, except I have i5 4460 cpu.
Ironhand Posted February 1, 2018 Author Posted February 1, 2018 Thanks for the info, folks. I do have deferred shading on. I did click the Open icon, selected a mission, and it opened in the ME. But, after about 2-3 minutes, no ground (etc) textures had loaded. I'll have to play around when I have more time. Maybe this weekend. The textures load after about 10s. My specs are similar to yours, except I have i5 4460 cpu. Hmmm... I waited about 2-3 minutes with nothing happening. Missions load fine from the main screen but I wanted to check something in a mission in the ME. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
grunf Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 Try renaming your saved games folder, so that DCS recreates default one. Also try repair.
j-tk Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 I noticed this last night, I have a high end PC with 24gb of memory and the game on a raid 0 ssd and I had to walk away and get food and a drink waiting for it to load, only to have it crash the first time, and then wait another 7 minutes and 40 seconds for it to reload. Even then working in it was really slow. Especially trying to change weapons loadout.
Ironhand Posted February 1, 2018 Author Posted February 1, 2018 Try renaming your saved games folder, so that DCS recreates default one. Also try repair. I'll probably do that over the weekend, if the issue continues. Like I mentioned, Nevada has always taken awhile to load in the textures. So maybe that installation had an issue that got copied over. I think I had done a cleanup and repair on it, when I first noticed it but, now, I don't remember clearly whether or not I did. Starting with fresh folders and a cleaned and repaired program can't hurt. :) YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
Ironhand Posted February 1, 2018 Author Posted February 1, 2018 The initial load with textures took definitely longer than 2-3min. Afterwards, even after exiting DCS, the ME loads even faster than with 1.5.8, much to my surprise. Ahhh... I had limited time this morning and wanted to get into the air over the new map for the first time. So I only gave it several minutes before bailing and loading a mission to fly. I'll try to be more patient the next time. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
Exorcet Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 The initial load with textures took definitely longer than 2-3min. Afterwards, even after exiting DCS, the ME loads even faster than with 1.5.8, much to my surprise. Same issue here. First time going through menus was slow. Switching from Georgia to NTTR was very slow. Subsequent attempts went fast. This repeated when I deleted options.lua and metashaders, so issues with those files might be related. Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
kreisch Posted February 1, 2018 Posted February 1, 2018 Try renaming your saved games folder, so that DCS recreates default one. Also try repair.I did this and can confirm the issues. Loading of Caucasus map took around 4,5 minutes. Specs I5 4670k 16gb Ssd for dcs R390x After first loading it was okay but when zooming it takes Around 5 seconds to respond again... No fun in the editor :( Gesendet von meinem F5121 mit Tapatalk Ugly-Squadron GamestarPinboard
Grimes Posted February 2, 2018 Posted February 2, 2018 Attach the DCS.log from a session of long loading into the ME. I've certainly had it be quite slow on first load, and it is much more magnified on my installs on a HDD compared to an SSD. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
Ironhand Posted February 2, 2018 Author Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) Attach the DCS.log from a session of long loading into the ME. I've certainly had it be quite slow on first load, and it is much more magnified on my installs on a HDD compared to an SSD. First, this is what I'm seeing. After a reboot, the first time took a bit over 4 minutes. This is the 2nd time I went in and it took about a minute less (WARNING: Watching this is a bit like watching paint dry): Log attached. I'm going to play around with things this weekend, if I get a chance and see if anything I do makes a significant difference.Ironhand_dcs.zip Edited February 2, 2018 by Ironhand YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
bulding Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) blue screen hi guys I'm same problem its still faster than 20s I have already tested everything nothing changes fxo delete and metashaders and option lua file little video attach my specs mb asus maximus formula 5 asus gtx trix 970 4gb 16gb ram corsaire i53570k win7 64 ssd Samsung 840pro same problem in alpha 2.2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV3OJ6MF2Y8 no one has yet found :music_whistling: Edited February 14, 2018 by bulding [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]:alien:My dailymotion channel:http://www.dailymotion.com/buldingm :pilotfly: and youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/buldingm
bulding Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 I forgot log file :doh:dcs.log-20180202-115811.zip [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]:alien:My dailymotion channel:http://www.dailymotion.com/buldingm :pilotfly: and youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/buldingm
j-tk Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 How do I find the/which log to upload for the long load times for the ME as I have the same problem of 5-6 mins on a high end machine?
bulding Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 How do I find the/which log to upload for the long load times for the ME as I have the same problem of 5-6 mins on a high end machine? the log file is in saved game guys c/user name/saved game dcs logs [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]:alien:My dailymotion channel:http://www.dailymotion.com/buldingm :pilotfly: and youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/buldingm
ECV56_Polten Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 It seems my case is worst. After upgrading to 2.5.0.14304 the ME gets stuck in the loading screen and doesn't run. I left it for more or less and hour and nothing happened. Before the upgrade, the ME was working, but with long load times as described in the first post. I uploaded the dcs.log file in case it is of any help.dcs.zip Intel i5-7600K @3,80 (4,9 OC) + Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR4@3200 XMP 2.0 + Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED + Asus MAXIMUS IX HERO + Thermaltake Chaser A31 Snow Edition Geforce RTX 2060 6GB SSD Samsung 850 EVO 500GB + HDD WDC WD500 500GB Saitek X-52 Pro & Thrustmaster T.Flight Rudder Pedals & TrackIR 5 & Kingston HyperX Alloy FPS Oh, yeah, also the Sony PlayStation 4 :happy:
robgraham Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 EVC56_Polten, have you tried a repair? your getting an error in the core me_mission.lua when it tries to create a new mission as seen here 2018-02-14 22:17:14.147 ALERT LUACOMMON: Error: GUI Error: [string "./MissionEditor/modules/me_mission.lua"]:2339: attempt to call field 'resetModifiedTime' (a nil value) GUI debug.traceback: stack traceback: [C]: in function 'resetModifiedTime' [string "./MissionEditor/modules/me_mission.lua"]:2339: in function 'create_new_mission' [string "./MissionEditor/modules/MainMenu.lua"]:127: in function 'func' [string "./MissionEditor/modules/me_wait_screen.lua"]:72: in function 'updater' [string "./Scripts/UpdateManager.lua"]:64: in function <[string "./Scripts/UpdateManager.lua"]:40> 2018-02-14 23:30:16.391 INFO EDCORE: (dDispatcher)enterToState_:5 I just double checked mine was still working given the latest update and it is so i'd suggest trying a repair on your install and seeing if that fixes that error i7 13700k, 64gb DDR5, Warthog HOTAS, HP Reverb G2 VR, win 11, RTX 3070 TGW Dedicated Server Admin, Australian PVE/PVP gameplay. (taskgroupwarrior.info/2020)
robgraham Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 I forgot log file :doh: Thats one ouch of a log file man.. you've a bunch of failed to create shader errors.. that lead to what looks like an access violation .. it's almost like something write protecting your savegame folder or something.. you've got massive amounts of this 2018-02-02 11:58:11.642 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for /textures/litdust.png. 2018-02-02 11:58:11.652 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for /textures/font_tiny.tga. 2018-02-02 11:58:11.662 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for /textures/tr_test.tga. 2018-02-02 11:58:11.666 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for /textures/colorlut_tealorange.png. 2018-02-02 11:58:11.669 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for /textures/colorlut_tealorange2.png. 2018-02-02 11:58:11.673 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for /textures/colorlut_tealorange3.png. 2018-02-02 11:58:11.676 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for /textures/colorlut_tealorange5.png. 2018-02-02 11:58:11.680 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for /textures/colorlut_tealorange6.png. 2018-02-02 11:58:11.683 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for /textures/colorlut_redtint.png. 2018-02-02 11:58:11.687 ERROR DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for /textures/colorlut_sepia.png. that suddenly just hits the initscene for the me and bang you crash which would likely be (again not a dev here so shot in the dark ) that your dcs can't FIND/create the shaders it needs to build the scene and it triggers an access violation in the memory space.. that ones weird as hell. i7 13700k, 64gb DDR5, Warthog HOTAS, HP Reverb G2 VR, win 11, RTX 3070 TGW Dedicated Server Admin, Australian PVE/PVP gameplay. (taskgroupwarrior.info/2020)
ECV56_Polten Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 EVC56_Polten, have you tried a repair? your getting an error in the core me_mission.lua when it tries to create a new mission as seen here Hi robgraham. I haven't tried a repair, but I uninstalled all the mods, and it worked again, so it is reasonable to assume that one or more mods are the cause of the issue. Intel i5-7600K @3,80 (4,9 OC) + Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR4@3200 XMP 2.0 + Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED + Asus MAXIMUS IX HERO + Thermaltake Chaser A31 Snow Edition Geforce RTX 2060 6GB SSD Samsung 850 EVO 500GB + HDD WDC WD500 500GB Saitek X-52 Pro & Thrustmaster T.Flight Rudder Pedals & TrackIR 5 & Kingston HyperX Alloy FPS Oh, yeah, also the Sony PlayStation 4 :happy:
ECV56_Polten Posted February 15, 2018 Posted February 15, 2018 Ok, I can confirm that the problem, in my case, was caused by an outdated version of the Coalition Update Mod by uboat and Grimes. I now use the updated version of this mod, available from https://github.com/mrSkortch/DCS-miscScripts/issues/1 Intel i5-7600K @3,80 (4,9 OC) + Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR4@3200 XMP 2.0 + Cooler Master Hyper 212 LED + Asus MAXIMUS IX HERO + Thermaltake Chaser A31 Snow Edition Geforce RTX 2060 6GB SSD Samsung 850 EVO 500GB + HDD WDC WD500 500GB Saitek X-52 Pro & Thrustmaster T.Flight Rudder Pedals & TrackIR 5 & Kingston HyperX Alloy FPS Oh, yeah, also the Sony PlayStation 4 :happy:
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