got me a little more RAM

[scampaboy]

First can i say

 

С праздником!! Have a good day guys don't drink too much.

 

I have luckily got some more RAM to bump me up to 16GB from 8

 

What settings can I change to make use of this increased RAM ?

[mastersetter]

I have 8 atm, would like to know if you have noticed any solid improvement?

[Lixma 06]

Preload radius (I think).

[scampaboy]

I have 8 atm, would like to know if you have noticed any solid improvement?

 

 

I'm just going to test it on the settings I had with 8 and let you know if there is any improvement.

 

After that i'll bump up the preload.

 

I don't know if its placebo but my system feels a lot snappier anyway so it was worth the upgrade in that respect.

[scampaboy]

Ok i'm doing the instant mission in a huey "easy" ground attack in kavkaz

 

Without changing any settings it is a lot more fluid. I don't want to look at the frame rate because its running very well and I don't want to break it in my mind. In this case with this aircraft at that time height 20 other AI etc. I am happy with the improvement. Previously I had Little stutters, they seem to have gone. I notice we have very similar hardware yours is slightly better than mine.

 

i5 6400

16gb (was 8)

250 gb ssd

gtx 1050 ti (4gb)

 

Also I've got PS3 head tracking track clip etc.

[Sideslip]

...Without changing any settings it is a lot more fluid. I don't want to look at the frame rate because its running very well and I don't want to break it in my mind...

 

If that's the case, I have this USB stick that when plugged into a USB 3.0 port will give you 10% more FPS and sharper anti-aliasing than 8XMSAA. It's yours for only $100. :shifty:

 

I could see how moving past 8GB would decrease some stutters. I have 16GB and normally I see a usage between 8 and 12GB, so that little bit extra might make a difference.

[Slazi]

I could see how moving past 8GB would decrease some stutters. I have 16GB and normally I see a usage between 8 and 12GB, so that little bit extra might make a difference.

 

I upgraded to 24GB today. Load times are much better (from SSD).

 

What many people don't understand is how data needs to be loaded off of RAM back to the HDD. This takes a lot of times and really slows down loading and reloading.

 

Not sure if 24GB is much better than 16GB for DCS, but I get the feeling it might be.

[Slazi]

A little further testing:

 

I loaded a 24 player multiplayer server - 107th: Through the Inferno. My (overall, not task manager DCS) RAM usage went up to around 12GB on medium / low textures. I used F2 to look at a number of planes and different areas of the map and jumped into a few different air frames. It ended up around 16GB. (Textures medium, Terrain low, Water low)

 

Maxed texture size, my RAM peaked at around 23GB before DCS went funny and crashed. Ram usage dropped down to around 3GB. (Textures high, Terrain high, Water medium)

 

Restarted. It then asked me to re-enter my Combined Ops key after restarting, but anyway... Loading the same server with high-res textures and spawning in an F-5E-3 took me to 19.5GB.

 

Then jumped into KA-50, Mi-8, and AJS-37 took me over 20GB. Using F2 to look around the map took me up to 23GB.

 

Now I'm a little worried 24GB is not enough.

 

I'm pretty sure spawning the MiG-21Bis would bring me over 24GB (as that really used to kill my memory).

 

So 16GB for single player, 24GB+ for mult with high-res textures.

 

You can play with less, but it isn't always smooth due to offloading from RAM to hdd. As long as nobody is spawning in new aircraft, you are generally alright. But if someone joins in a new air frame, you could be left with up to around ten seconds (MiG-21 used to do this to me all the time) where you can't do anything. If you are flying near the ground, you are dead.

 

Results:

Loading still takes ages on the first load

Quitting is instant. My drive no longer has to do loads of work before DCS can shut down.

Reloading seem much faster.

HDD isn't working as hard.

 

Other settings:

Grass / Clutter 600 (this should only hit fps)

Trees 45 (as above?)

Preload 59128 (no specific reason for that setting, but seems smooth)

 

I'm running full screen windowed.

 

My advice for DCS players:

 

If you have 8GB, upgrade to 24. You could always get rid of the 8GB and switch it for another 16GB later if you have the money and feel the need.

If you have 16GB, upgrade to 32.

Edited February 24, 2018 by Slazi

[scampaboy]

If that's the case, I have this USB stick that when plugged into a USB 3.0 port will give you 10% more FPS and sharper anti-aliasing than 8XMSAA. It's yours for only $100. :shifty:

 

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damn destroyed my placebo effect i'm going to send the RAM back now

[FragBum]

okay the extra ram will certainly improve windows as it will tend to use its page file less and load more stuff into ram for me dcs pretty much uses maybe 6 to 8 gb of ram. higher textures tends to use more vram, for me thats up to about 8ish gb of vram.

 

so maybe your extra ram helps overall performance and makes a difference. ymmv however just enjoy it.:)

 

again sorry for the lower case windows ate my usb,... :cry:

 

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normally my rig runs about 12gb to 15gb with dcs vr, chrome, teamspeak and some other stuff running, hence why you might see some overall improvement.

Edited February 24, 2018 by FragBum
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[BitMaster]

okay the extra ram will certainly improve windows as it will tend to use its page file less and load more stuff into ram for me dcs pretty much uses maybe 6 to 8 gb of ram. higher textures tends to use more vram, for me thats up to about 8ish gb of vram.

 

so maybe your extra ram helps overall performance and makes a difference. ymmv however just enjoy it.:)

 

again sorry for the lower case windows ate my usb,... :cry:

 

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normally my rig runs about 12gb to 15gb with dcs vr, chrome, teamspeak and some other stuff running, hence why you might see some overall improvement.

 

16GB should be the "middle" thing and 24-32GB should be called "ambitious".

 

Yes, you can use DCS with only 8GB, but limited expectations and some MP wont even load before it crashes, add a HDD and you are screwed before you even took off.

[scampaboy]

My computer is "Multirole" not only for DCS, I can see a difference in the overall performance of the computer so for me the 2 weeks when i didn't go for a beer were worth it. If that puts it into perspective when deliberating going from 8 to 16 gb.

 

I went for a beer

[D.Va]

If that's the case, I have this USB stick that when plugged into a USB 3.0 port will give you 10% more FPS and sharper anti-aliasing than 8XMSAA. It's yours for only $100. :shifty:

 

I could see how moving past 8GB would decrease some stutters. I have 16GB and normally I see a usage between 8 and 12GB, so that little bit extra might make a difference.

 

Interesting!

 

A little further testing:

 

I loaded a 24 player multiplayer server - 107th: Through the Inferno. My (overall, not task manager DCS) RAM usage went up to around 12GB on medium / low textures. I used F2 to look at a number of planes and different areas of the map and jumped into a few different air frames. It ended up around 16GB. (Textures medium, Terrain low, Water low)

 

Maxed texture size, my RAM peaked at around 23GB before DCS went funny and crashed. Ram usage dropped down to around 3GB. (Textures high, Terrain high, Water medium)

 

Restarted. It then asked me to re-enter my Combined Ops key after restarting, but anyway... Loading the same server with high-res textures and spawning in an F-5E-3 took me to 19.5GB.

 

Then jumped into KA-50, Mi-8, and AJS-37 took me over 20GB. Using F2 to look around the map took me up to 23GB.

 

Now I'm a little worried 24GB is not enough.

 

I'm pretty sure spawning the MiG-21Bis would bring me over 24GB (as that really used to kill my memory).

 

So 16GB for single player, 24GB+ for mult with high-res textures.

 

You can play with less, but it isn't always smooth due to offloading from RAM to hdd. As long as nobody is spawning in new aircraft, you are generally alright. But if someone joins in a new air frame, you could be left with up to around ten seconds (MiG-21 used to do this to me all the time) where you can't do anything. If you are flying near the ground, you are dead.

 

Results:

Loading still takes ages on the first load

Quitting is instant. My drive no longer has to do loads of work before DCS can shut down.

Reloading seem much faster.

HDD isn't working as hard.

 

Other settings:

Grass / Clutter 600 (this should only hit fps)

Trees 45 (as above?)

Preload 59128 (no specific reason for that setting, but seems smooth)

 

I'm running full screen windowed.

 

My advice for DCS players:

 

If you have 8GB, upgrade to 24. You could always get rid of the 8GB and switch it for another 16GB later if you have the money and feel the need.

If you have 16GB, upgrade to 32.

DCS 2.5 currently has a memory leak. Don't upgrade RAM at all.

[FragBum]

Interesting!

 

 

DCS 2.5 currently has a memory leak. Don't upgrade RAM at all.

 

I have not experienced memory leak with 2.5 perhaps different OS and modules and or any number of combinations. I think you'll find win 10 will benefit from at least 16GB of ram.

 

With DCS using between 5 and maybe 8GB, other apps like chrome or ie being somewhat memory hogs will quickly get windows paging frantically I would consider 16GB a good choice overall. This is not so much whats needed to run DCS but more to keep windows from micro managing its page file.

[Icebeat]

A little further testing:

 

I loaded a 24 player multiplayer server - 107th: Through the Inferno. My (overall, not task manager DCS) RAM usage went up to around 12GB on medium / low textures. I used F2 to look at a number of planes and different areas of the map and jumped into a few different air frames. It ended up around 16GB. (Textures medium, Terrain low, Water low)

 

Maxed texture size, my RAM peaked at around 23GB before DCS went funny and crashed. Ram usage dropped down to around 3GB. (Textures high, Terrain high, Water medium)

 

Restarted. It then asked me to re-enter my Combined Ops key after restarting, but anyway... Loading the same server with high-res textures and spawning in an F-5E-3 took me to 19.5GB.

 

Then jumped into KA-50, Mi-8, and AJS-37 took me over 20GB. Using F2 to look around the map took me up to 23GB.

 

Now I'm a little worried 24GB is not enough.

 

I'm pretty sure spawning the MiG-21Bis would bring me over 24GB (as that really used to kill my memory).

 

So 16GB for single player, 24GB+ for mult with high-res textures.

 

You can play with less, but it isn't always smooth due to offloading from RAM to hdd. As long as nobody is spawning in new aircraft, you are generally alright. But if someone joins in a new air frame, you could be left with up to around ten seconds (MiG-21 used to do this to me all the time) where you can't do anything. If you are flying near the ground, you are dead.

 

Results:

Loading still takes ages on the first load

Quitting is instant. My drive no longer has to do loads of work before DCS can shut down.

Reloading seem much faster.

HDD isn't working as hard.

 

Other settings:

Grass / Clutter 600 (this should only hit fps)

Trees 45 (as above?)

Preload 59128 (no specific reason for that setting, but seems smooth)

 

I'm running full screen windowed.

 

My advice for DCS players:

 

If you have 8GB, upgrade to 24. You could always get rid of the 8GB and switch it for another 16GB later if you have the money and feel the need.

If you have 16GB, upgrade to 32.

I updated from 16 to 32 and I am having the same loading time and the same stutters when the game needs to load explosion textures. So I will refund it because 16 GB cost 200$ and DCS with 32GB gives you 0 performance improve.

P.S: I am launching DCS from a Samsung 960 EVO M.2

P.S.2 You are running DCS from a HDD, please buy a SSD, it will be cheaper and you will be crazy faster.

Edited February 27, 2018 by Icebeat

[Slazi]

I updated from 16 to 32 and I am having the same loading time and the same stutters when the game needs to load explosion textures. So I will refund it because 16 GB cost 200$ and DCS with 32GB gives you 0 performance improve.

P.S: I am launching DCS from a Samsung 960 EVO M.2

P.S.2 You are running DCS from a HDD, please buy a SSD, it will be cheaper and you will be crazy faster.

I'm on an SSD. I have no stutters loading explosions.

 

Do you have a decent CPU?