Introducing the DFDT Cockpit Project

[HPO]

2 Dronas,

 

If you mean why it floats, the connection isn't designed yet :)

[HPO]

Freakin sick!!!!:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

 

Maby a stupid question.

But do you have any kind of info what all the functions are from the buttons and so on on the stick?

 

Yes I have (kind of), I will make a picture with info next to the buttons.

 

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[thesystem]

Wow thankyou!:thumbup:

i realy appreciate it.

 

Ah well

 

 

Dankjewel!!!:D

[VMFA-Blaze]

Yes I have (kind of), I will make a picture with info next to the buttons.

 

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Awesome thanks HPO... Rep inbound..

 

~S~

 

Blaze

[Red Hammer]

What about the thrust controll (I mean Throttle) and the other buttons on the side?

And I hope it is a dual spring coil. (I mean double coil)

[HPO]

Hi, here are the reguested pictures with the info on the buttons, this is my current interpretation of the different info I got.:book:

Some are maybe not what you are used to. :)

 

 

If somebody has better info please tell, I would sure like to know.

 

 

As you can see there are also some small updates.

 

 

 

 

 

Ceeya :joystick:

[HPO]

What about the thrust controll (I mean Throttle) and the other buttons on the side?

And I hope it is a dual spring coil. (I mean double coil)

 

Well maybe in the future we are looking into that, there are plans for that.

I don't know exactly what you mean by double coil though :huh:

[HPO]

Awesome thanks HPO... Rep inbound..

 

~S~

 

Blaze

 

Thanks :)

[Red Hammer]

So you do plan to make thrust controll, Great:smartass:

 

Well maybe in the future we are looking into that, there are plans for that.

I don't know exactly what you mean by double coil though :huh:

 

It is the thing they used in the X52 pro.

http://www.saitek.com/images/300dpi/joysticks/PS34_X52_Pro_Combo.jpg

see there are 2 coil under the joystick to makes it more power to keep and adjust the joystick in the central.

[Red Hammer]

What about the button there?

[HPO]

Hi, that button is pressed with the wheelbrake handle, you rotate it upwards and then it presses that button.

 

Same goes for the payload armament trigger you rotate it downwards and then it presses a button.

I will make a picture with the handles in their (action) position.

 

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[thesystem]

wow your screens with the butten explaination looks awesome! Thanks for the info!

 

 

strange AP button on that russian bird!

[HPO]

Here it is.

 

 

 

 

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[Specnaz]

Hi HPO, I think the button for the radar is also a push button as we can read in russian "center of zone" , so I think that you could quick call in the center of the hud the targetting box of the radar system by pressing this button...to be confirmed ...

[Prophet]

That is rubber at the base of the hotas.

Every cougar has that:smilewink:

 

Mine has leather :)

[Red Hammer]

May I dare to ask:

Are you going to make the HUD, MFD and a 360 degree screen as well?

If you are, that would be Great!!

I am sure I am going to buy it.

[HPO]

Hi HPO, I think the button for the radar is also a push button as we can read in russian "center of zone" , so I think that you could quick call in the center of the hud the targetting box of the radar system by pressing this button...to be confirmed ...

 

Well, I think you are right, but this is also our intension because a ministick also has a button when pressed.

 

 

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[HPO]

May I dare to ask:

Are you going to make the HUD, MFD and a 360 degree screen as well?

If you are, that would be Great!!

I am sure I am going to buy it.

 

Well the cockpit itself is a very longterm plan. Wasserfall is firstly going to make one for himself, this is at the moment all done by hand craftmanship and he hasn't that much time lately (Correct me if I'm wrong Wasserfall :)).

 

 

 

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[Red Hammer]

How long do we have to wait until it is available to me?

I know you cannot tell me exactly when, so I hope you can tell me round about when?

[Maximus_G]

Hi, here are the reguested pictures with the info on the buttons, this is my current interpretation of the different info I got.:book:

Some are maybe not what you are used to. :)

 

 

If somebody has better info please tell, I would sure like to know.

 

"Д.БОЙ-Б.БОЙ" is actually used for the weapons selection - switch to close-range or long-range missiles.

 

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What's about the manufacturing process? How are you going to make the body of the grip? AFAIK, concerning real prototypes, it's the aluminium alloy molding process, and it makes things rather complicated.

[HPO]

"Д.БОЙ-Б.БОЙ" is actually used for the weapons selection - switch to close-range or long-range missiles.

 

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What's about the manufacturing process? How are you going to make the body of the grip? AFAIK, concerning real prototypes, it's the aluminium alloy molding process, and it makes things rather complicated.

 

Thanks for the info :), but that is what I ment, BVR as in (Beyond visual range) -> Long range.

And CCM as in (Close Combat Mode) -> short range.

I only didn't mention the weapon selection part :).

 

The grip is not going to be in aluminium but in a composite resin, you have two look at page 11 of this thread there's a link to a video of the manufacturing proces, and on page 9 are photos of how I will make the masters for the moulds.

[Maximus_G]

Thanks!

[JaNk0]

any update?

[HPO]

any update?

 

No not really, I'm very busy with my daytime job at the moment, lots of overtime :(

[Joe Kurr]

A small update from my side :)

 

Some time ago I made a small circuit which we will use in the base of our stick, based on MJoy.

 

A few days ago my gameport broke down, so I couldn't use my Suncom HOTAS anymore.

Right now, I'm modding the MJoy circuit into the Suncom HOTAS, so I can connect the whole lot to a USB port.

In order to keep the Suncoms programmable buttons, I decided to rewire only the potmeters, and leave the buttons wired to the original circuits.

 

This is how it will eventually be connected:

 

 

The console I put in the schematic will contain all buttons from the MJoy.

I entered "16 BTN", because the easiest way to get things going is to use a piece of UTP, which has 8 wires.

With those wires I can make a 4x4 matrix, supporting 16 buttons, which is enough for the first tests. The rest (12 more buttons and two potmeters) will be added later on.

 

This evening I modified the original MJoy circuit to support the potmeters which are in the Suncom (I'm not replacing them... yet).

 

 

In this picture you can see the wires running off to the throttle (left) and the stick (right)

The three buttons are there from an earlier test, they will move to the console later on.

I plan to rewire the potmeters tomorrow evening.

When that is done, it's time to connect it to the PC, and run the first reallife test with our custom stick (the electronics at least)

 

If all this works, I will have a total of 134 functions, of which 106 are programmable :)

I will also have two more analog axes, which will also eventually be connected to the console.

 

Another test I have also planned for this setup is to replace the original pots in the Suncom with Hall sensors.

If my guesses are correct, this should be no problem at all, but I'd rather test it now, before we build a Flanker stick with sensors that won't work.