ATC not answering to request for takeoff

[Sylosis]

In most missions, with most modules, I can never have the authorization for takeoff. The ATC just doesn't answer.

 

I've looked around the forum I have seen similar posts, but with no real answer to it...

 

Everybody seems to think it's because people can't set their radio on properly... but how do you explain that I was able to get my authorization for start-up and also my authorization for taxi.

 

I've tried different things, like asking it while I am rolling on the taxiway, or waiting to be stopped just before the runway... nothing seems to work.

 

I wait and wait and nothing.... And when I finally get pissed off and decide to takeoff, as I roll onto the runway, ATC will say that I am not clear for takeoff, and then change its mind and tell me I am clear for takeoff 3 seconds later....

 

And this isn't at a specific airport. The problem is generalized.

 

What gives?

 

(easy comm is off, however I have the issue on any modules, even FC3).

[Sylosis]

As additional info, I sometimes get a response, but that is probably 10% of the time.

 

I'm surprised nobody has the same issue...?

[Mouse_99]

I agree, most of the time I end up just ignoring and taking off (after looking both ways). It does ruin the immersion, but at least I can get off the ground and fly!

[JDarksword]

In most missions, with most modules, I can never have the authorization for takeoff. The ATC just doesn't answer.

 

I've looked around the forum I have seen similar posts, but with no real answer to it...

 

Everybody seems to think it's because people can't set their radio on properly... but how do you explain that I was able to get my authorization for start-up and also my authorization for taxi.

 

I've tried different things, like asking it while I am rolling on the taxiway, or waiting to be stopped just before the runway... nothing seems to work.

 

I wait and wait and nothing.... And when I finally get pissed off and decide to takeoff, as I roll onto the runway, ATC will say that I am not clear for takeoff, and then change its mind and tell me I am clear for takeoff 3 seconds later....

 

And this isn't at a specific airport. The problem is generalized.

 

What gives?

 

(easy comm is off, however I have the issue on any modules, even FC3).

 

Sit on the taxiway where it Ts with the runway and get as close as possible without putting the tip of your nose over the runway. Come to a complete stop and try it. This is what always works for me. Also make sure you are holding short of the correct runway (E.G. runway 33 at Guadata instead of 15 if that's where ATC told you to go)

[Legs]

I am having the same issue (A10C) I've heard its an issue with the intercom not being turned on but other than that i don't know

[Spetz]

Same issue, any module. Ask for taxi and then it answers half way down the taxiway. Single player with only my jet in game.

[Sylosis]

Sit on the taxiway where it Ts with the runway and get as close as possible without putting the tip of your nose over the runway. Come to a complete stop and try it. This is what always works for me. Also make sure you are holding short of the correct runway (E.G. runway 33 at Guadata instead of 15 if that's where ATC told you to go)

 

Tried that and it worked. I mean, it didn't work right off the bat, but there seem to be a somewhat precise location that you need to be at.

 

I used to ask when I was stopped, holding short of the runway. However, as per your suggestion, I tried moving forward a couple more feet, right on the edge of the runway. And then stop and ask.

 

That is what was the problem... It's a bit dumb that it doesn't answer unless you are on a precise point (of course as long as you are on the right runway), but at least now I know what to do to make it work.

 

And it explains why I was able to do it 10% of the time. It's probably because I was coincidentally at the right spot, 10% of the time.

 

Thanks for the cue on the "tip of the nose over the runway"!

[JDarksword]

Tried that and it worked. I mean, it didn't work right off the bat, but there seem to be a somewhat precise location that you need to be at.

 

I used to ask when I was stopped, holding short of the runway. However, as per your suggestion, I tried moving forward a couple more feet, right on the edge of the runway. And then stop and ask.

 

That is what was the problem... It's a bit dumb that it doesn't answer unless you are on a precise point (of course as long as you are on the right runway), but at least now I know what to do to make it work.

 

And it explains why I was able to do it 10% of the time. It's probably because I was coincidentally at the right spot, 10% of the time.

 

Thanks for the cue on the "tip of the nose over the runway"!

Yeah no problem, glad it worked for you. I used to have the exact same issue so I sat down and just kept trying different positions until it worked.

[Dami]

The correct steps to get all the clearances from ground control will be the following:

 

1. Switch on the battery and (depending on the aircraft) all the switches necessary for the comms to work. You should NOT start the engine at this moment.

 

2. After the radio is set up and working, you request engine start and wait for clearance.

 

3. Start the engine as soon as you are allowed (you also will get some info on windspeed and pressure to fine tune your altimeter) and prepare for taxiing (e.g. all the remaining switches, flaps and stuff).

 

4. As soon everything else is done, ask for taxiing. From my experience, you may not receive the clearance, for example, if your flaps are not in the correct position (this could be a coincidence, but happened a couple of times to me). The dispatch will let you know the runway number.

 

5. The most important - taxiing clearance DOES NOT mean that you are allowed to enter the runway. This is not a bug, this is how things are supposed to happen. You should taxi and stop at the edge of runway without actually entering it - only then ask for takeoff.

You WILL NOT receive take off permission until you stop there. If you request takeoff being too far from the runway, it doesn't work, either, AFAIK.

[Sylosis]

The correct steps to get all the clearances from ground control will be the following:

 

1. Switch on the battery and (depending on the aircraft) all the switches necessary for the comms to work. You should NOT start the engine at this moment.

 

2. After the radio is set up and working, you request engine start and wait for clearance.

 

3. Start the engine as soon as you are allowed (you also will get some info on windspeed and pressure to fine tune your altimeter) and prepare for taxiing (e.g. all the remaining switches, flaps and stuff).

 

4. As soon everything else is done, ask for taxiing. From my experience, you may not receive the clearance, for example, if your flaps are not in the correct position (this could be a coincidence, but happened a couple of times to me). The dispatch will let you know the runway number.

 

5. The most important - taxiing clearance DOES NOT mean that you are allowed to enter the runway. This is not a bug, this is how things are supposed to happen. You should taxi and stop at the edge of runway without actually entering it - only then ask for takeoff.

You WILL NOT receive take off permission until you stop there. If you request takeoff being too far from the runway, it doesn't work, either, AFAIK.

 

Thanks for the list, as it might help others who would perhaps read this thread.

 

However, speaking for myself, I was aware of pretty much all that you said. The problem that I was having:

 

- When stopping before the runway, to ask for takeoff clearance (as you pointed out), I was a couple of feet too far from said runway. As it was mentioned, it seems ATC is expecting you to have the nose of the airplane further away, in such a position that it is actually above the runway, with the rest of the airplane being still on the taxiway. Only then will it answer your request for takeoff. If you are too far by only a small amount, you won't get any answer.

[Ironhand]

... Only then will it answer your request for takeoff. If you are too far by only a small amount, you won't get any answer.

 

Out of curiosity what map are you on? I ask because I know I’ve gotten permission while rolling toward the runway but still a distance away on the taxiway but that was on the Caucasus map.

[Sylosis]

Out of curiosity what map are you on? I ask because I know I’ve gotten permission while rolling toward the runway but still a distance away on the taxiway but that was on the Caucasus map.

 

Well, at the moment I am 90% of the time on Caucasus, and that is when I have issues. That is, I'm on 2.5.0, not the beta

 

(though considering ED seems to think their beta is the official version I'm seriously thinking of making the switch).

 

So ya, I have that issue on Caucasus and it's all the time, on any airport. I don't remember a time where I got the takeoff clearance while being far from the runway. I was able to, now that I know that trick, consistently have clearance by being at that precise position (almost on the runway).