Cik Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 when you push E-jett, it will jettison the 2x sidewinder rails- should this be the case?
pete_auau Posted July 2, 2018 Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) If you press the E- Button every thing that is attached to the wing and centre line plyons will jett weather its a mounted pylon or just tanks on or what ever is loaded, if you got bombs on these pylons they will not arm once they are jett from the aircraft Edited July 2, 2018 by pete_auau
Alphamale Posted July 2, 2018 Posted July 2, 2018 I'd like to know why we can't jett the rails and pylons to make it totally clean
RomaniaK Posted July 2, 2018 Posted July 2, 2018 I'd like to know why we can't jett the rails and pylons to make it totally clean Because it’s in Early Access. The totally clean payload (or lack there of) is supposed to be working but from what I gather, it’s only working in single player.
Alphamale Posted July 2, 2018 Posted July 2, 2018 Because it’s in Early Access. The totally clean payload (or lack there of) is supposed to be working but from what I gather, it’s only working in single player. I can remove pylons WOW if I do a Re-arm, but not jettison them...two different situations
Rainmaker Posted July 2, 2018 Posted July 2, 2018 when you push E-jett, it will jettison the 2x sidewinder rails- should this be the case? If you are talking about the outer wingtip stations...it's a bug according to what I am reading from the manual. Should jettison all underwing stations but tip stations should remain loaded.
SkateZilla Posted July 2, 2018 Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) When Jett is Pressed, The Following cannot be Jettisoned: Fuselage POD Adapter (for FLIR/ATFLIR), Fuselage LAU-116 (for AIM-7/AIM-120) Wingtip LAU-7 (For AIM-9) Centerline Unit SUU-62/A Wing Unit SUU-63/A This Must be removed by ground grew (LAU-116, SUU-62/A, SUU/63A, Fuselage POD Adapters, LAU-7) However, Launchers attached to the SUU-62/63 Units can be: BRUs, LAU-115C+LAU127, etc etc. Edited July 2, 2018 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Alphamale Posted July 2, 2018 Posted July 2, 2018 the LAU Rails on the Wingtips and the Pylons on the Wings, as well as centerline and LAU-115 Attachments and the POD Adapter are not jettisonable, the ground crew must remove them. Well, they should be
mvsgas Posted July 2, 2018 Posted July 2, 2018 Well, they should be This can be confusing because they are so many variable. Most pylons AFAIK, are bolted to the aircraft so they can't be jettison. When pods are loaded, the safety pin is left installed and no cartridges are installed on the pylon. Cartridges, missile rails and missile launchers examples here https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcsef.ru%2Fmedia%2Farticles%2F4361%2F4361.pdf From page 9-1 on cartridges. The general function of this cartridge is to use gas pressure to eject stores from aircraft weapons pylons, racks, launchers, etc. It is electrically fired from aircraft power and has a defined shelf and service life. Many rails for missiles cannot jettison since the missiles need to fire to come off the rail (unless removed by ground crew). For example the LAU-105, LAU-117 and LAU-118 on the link provided Some missiles launchers can jettison the missiles if cartridges are installed./ Example LAU-106 on the link provided. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
SkateZilla Posted July 2, 2018 Posted July 2, 2018 Well, they should be Fuselage POD Adapter (for FLIR/ATFLIR), Fuselage LAU-116 (for AIM-7/AIM-120) Wingtip LAU-7 (For AIM-9) Centerline Unit SUU-62/A Wing Unit SUU-63/A Are Not jettison-able in real life. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
mvsgas Posted July 2, 2018 Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) Wing tanks are different. Specially external wing tank on the F/A-18 since there are not part of the pylon. F-16 370 g wing tanks and obviously the F-22 wing tanks and pylons are one unit. Also on the F-22 is a bit more important since releasing the pylons, the aircraft regains stealth. F-16 370 tank https://www.gezagear.com/images_motorcycle_cover/Military4Geza.jpg F/A-18 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/US_Navy_021205-N-0275F-502_removing_a_fuel_tank_from_an_F-A-18C.jpg Notice the suspension lugs on the tank edit I was wrong on the F-22 tanks https://media.defense.gov/2014/Aug/20/2000933832/888/591/0/140813-F-OE991-189.JPG Edited July 2, 2018 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Alphamale Posted July 2, 2018 Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) Source: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-241182.html Comments: "Interesting, not worked with F16 before. However, yes TERs can be jettisoned, as can pylons containing ERUs. The question, as I interpreted it anyway, was could a bomb and the ERU be jettisoned together, which isn't possible as the ERU is bolted into the TER or pylon. Perhaps I was being too pedantic/specific " "Double hit on selective jettison will drop the TER as well. Emergency Jettison will drop everything pylons 1-7. I see one maybe two tanks and a TER" "so according to what they said F-16 can also jettison it's whole pylon, and it can even jettison pylon that connected to bomb racks ( TER) . Can anyone here confirm that?, is that true that F-16 can drop all of it's pylon in emergency situations. ? , is that capabilities unique to F-16 or all other fighter can do that? btw what is ERUs?" Edited July 2, 2018 by Alphamale
Cik Posted July 2, 2018 Author Posted July 2, 2018 so the answer is "it should"? is there any way to prevent jettison (or quickly jettison everything but sidewinders)? it seems a little odd that when i end up in a fight and dump tanks, it pitches 80% of my AAMs into the water..
DDSSTT Posted July 2, 2018 Posted July 2, 2018 so the answer is "it should"? is there any way to prevent jettison (or quickly jettison everything but sidewinders)? it seems a little odd that when i end up in a fight and dump tanks, it pitches 80% of my AAMs into the water.. This very topic has been answered for you in a few other posts... See: For the tutorial [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.csg-2.net/
pete_auau Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) Well, they should be they cant be since they are physically bolted to the aircraft, since all aircraft will be the same Edited July 3, 2018 by pete_auau
Retu81 Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 they cant be since they are physically bolted to the aircraft, since all aircraft will be the same Also in the case of wingtip launchers, the Hornet is not allowed to fly without them. Has something to do with stability/wing flex.
SkateZilla Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) Like I Said: Suspension Units Cannot be Jettisoned, (SUU-62/A, SUU-63/A), Fuselage Launcher/Adapters (LAU-116, ATFLIR/FLIR POD Adapter), and Wingtip Launchers (LAU-7). Everything else can This includes, All BRU Attachments (BRU-41/A, BRU42/A, BRU-33A, BRU-33A/A All LAU Attachments (LAU-115C (AIM-7), LAU-117 (AGM-65), LAU-118 (AGM), LAU-127 (AIM-9X/AIM-7), LAU-115C+LAU127. And the Stores Connected to them. Edited July 3, 2018 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Alphamale Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 they cant be since they are physically bolted to the aircraft, since all aircraft will be the same For the sake of aerodynamics and fuel efficiency...hence the word "should"...no one can argue that the plane is more aerodynamic with the pylons on....here's a wrench, unbolt them
SkateZilla Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 The Hornet's SUU System was not designed to be jettisonable. Removable for Maintenance and Aerobatic Configurations. (By the Ground Crew) Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Alphamale Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 The Hornet's SUU System was not designed to be jettisonable. Removable for Maintenance and Aerobatic Configurations. (By the Ground Crew) Yeah, and you know they had the tech to do it way back then. So here's a "feature" that you know should have been designed into it to begin with (and the very fact that they were bolted, shows that they were intended to be removed. Otherwise, why not weld it to the frame to begin with? But so we stay as "original" as possible, we don't allow for the emergency capability of ejected pylons...especially the wing pylons 2,3, 7, & 8
mvsgas Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Must be something about guys with that avatar. anyway To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Alphamale Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 https://patents.google.com/patent/US2865584 looks like this was capable since 1956
Mad_Max2 Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 Alphamale- are you saying hornet should be able to jettison the pylons to be accurate with the real life plane, or are you saying it would be nice to have? Considering it has already been stated that the pylons are bolted on, I'm assuming you meant the latter. In which case I think you'd have better luck in the wishlist section of this forum, and to be completely honest I think your argument will fall on deaf ears as it's just not accurate for the plane in question.
FSKRipper Posted July 3, 2018 Posted July 3, 2018 https://patents.google.com/patent/US2865584 looks like this was capable since 1956 Wow, regarding you link in 1942 MBB published a detachable connecting element by means of an explosive charge, in particular for aircraft, german Luftwaffe aircraft especially. What has this to do with the F/A-18C? Nothing, like your link :music_whistling: i9 9900K @ 5,0GHz | 1080GTX | 32GB RAM | 256GB, 512GB & 1TB Samsung SSDs | TIR5 w/ Track Clip | Virpil T-50 Stick with extension + Warthog Throttle | MFG Crosswind pedals | Gametrix 908 Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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