Aerobatic Team

[Xilon_x]

 

ROYAL AIR FORCE AEREOBATIC TEAM

HAWK-T1A

 

CHECK

 

 

BLUE ANGELS United States Navy's

F/A-18C

 

CHEK

 

Russkie Vitjazi Sukhoi Su-27P

Sukhoi Su-27UB

 

CHEK

 

ok ok loock this

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/keep-it-tight-10-flight-display-teams-of-note-417597/

 

in this SIMULATOR DCS MISSING the official n.1 aereobatic team in the world

 

Frecce Tricolori Aereonatica militare ITALIANA

Aermacchi MB-339

 

Frecce Tricolori can boast a number of records that have never been matched by any other acrobatic team in the world. ARE THE N.1 IN THE WORLD.

 

 

and after missing another team

FRANCE BRASIL ECC.ECC.

Edited October 6, 2018 by Xilon_x

[Xilon_x]

Frecce Tricolori (http://www.aeronautica.difesa.it/pan/)

 

 

 

Spagna - Aguila (http://www.aire.org/aguila/)

 

 

 

Francia - Patrouille de France (http://www.defense.gouv.fr/air/dossiers/indexpaf.html)

 

 

 

Svizzera - Patrouille Suisse (http://www.patrouille-suisse.ch)

 

 

 

Gran Bretagna - Red Arrows (http://www.deltaweb.co.uk/reds/30things.htm)

 

 

 

Belgio - Les Diables Rouges (http://www.mil.be/baf/fr/unités/De_rode_duivels_fr.htm)

 

 

 

Svezia - Team 60 (http://www.team60.mil.se)

 

 

 

Turchia - Turkish Stars (http://www.hho.edu.tr/turkyildizlari/)

 

 

 

Usa (marina) - Blue Angels (http://www.blueangels.navy.mil)

 

 

 

Usa (aviazione) - Thunderbirds (http://www.nellis.af.mil/thunderbirds)

 

 

 

Canada - Snowbirds (http://www.snowbirds.dnd.ca/index.asp)

 

 

 

Cile - Halcones (http://www.fach.cl/brigadas/segunda/halcones.html)

 

 

 

Corea - Black Eagles (http://www.airforce.go.kr/blackeagles.html)

 

 

 

Singapore - Black Knights (http://www.rsafblackknights.com/index.html)

 

 

 

Filippine - Blue Diamonds (http://www.paf.mil.ph/pafweb/BLUEDIA.HTML)

 

 

 

Cina - Thundertigers (www2.nsysu.edu.tw/cafa/thunder/intro-e.htm)

 

 

 

Australia - Roulettes (http://www.defence.gov.au/raaf/roulettes/index.htm)

 

 

 

Brasile - Esquadrilha da Fumaça (http://www.fab.mil.br/portal/eda/index1.htm)

 

 

 

Argentina - Cruz del Sur (http://www.faa.mil.ar/cruz.html)

 

 

 

Portugal - Asas de Portugal (http://www.emfa.pt/www/po/asas/index_asas.htm?lang=pt)

[Xilon_x]

you have satisfied primarily the RUSSIAN (and logical first of ED DCS the parent company and in Russia), then you have satisfied the U.S.A. and finally you have satisfied the ENGLISH.Developers DCS does not seem logical since the arrows is tricolori N.1 in the world after the Russians was logical to satisfy the Italians even though I saw that there is a MODS of MB339 in development.

 

MB339

[thezapper]

I'm slightly confused as to what you're asking for. It seems like you're implying that because three of the aircraft in DCS are used by display teams around the world, why are they not making the MB-339 - which is used by the Italian display team?

 

I don't believe ED or third parties are specifically making display team aircraft, rather they've just included display skins for aircraft that also happen to double as display team aircraft. The F/A-18C, Su-27 and Mig-29 are all very capable and potent modern combat aircraft and fully fit in to DCS World, the Hawk, less so, and I think also has had less interest and as such fewer sales.

 

It's unlikely that a developer is going to devote a large portion of time making an aircraft that doesn't really fit in with the rest of the DCS world, just because it's the aircraft of what might be the world's best display team.

 

People don't seem to grasp the massive amount of work and funding required to build a new module, and as a result developers have to carefully select aircraft that will sell enough units to cover their costs. The upshot of this is that you're unlikely to ever get niche aircraft like the MB-339, when machines like the AH-64, F-16 or a proper Su-27 are still not available and much more likely to net the all important sales required for a developer to survive.

 

I for one am not interested at all in trainer aircraft. If it's your thing, Aerobatics can be performed in all of the other fighter jets. I much prefer to drop bombs and fire missiles, so an aircraft with low performance and two pylons has no draw for me.

 

Why don't you just get the L-39 (which looks really similar to the MB-339) and make a skin of the Frecce Tricolori yourself?

[Xilon_x]

It is very important the aerial acrobatics and the BASE of all the maneuvers used in the air combat so have an acrobatic trainer for each country and fundamental.

 

 

 

 

in a combat simulator and fundamental air acrobatics all the techniques and maneuvers of piloting and combat are perfected.

Edited October 9, 2018 by Xilon_x

[thezapper]

You are applying real world logic to a video game.

 

In the real world it's important to have a trainer aircraft with lower performance, simpler systems, and possibly two seats, because it would be madness to ask a new pilot to get straight into a Gripen/Eurofighter/F-22 (or whatever) and try leaning to fly.

The main reason for this is safety. It's very likely a new pilot would crash such an aircraft and die. Secondary reasons would be cost of operating the platform and availability of the aircraft. These are the reasons display teams don't use their top military aircraft, they simply cost too much to run, and are generally needed elsewhere.

 

Fortunately, the downsides listed above don't exist in DCS. I can quite happily learn to fly the F-18 by jumping straight in the seat and randomly hitting switches, releasing weapons and ejecting or crashing, as many times as I want with no worry of bankrupting my country or upsetting my family.

 

Also, learning to operate one of the study-sim aircraft (A-10C, F/A-18, Ka-50, etc.) is an in depth task that takes a lot of time. I really don't want to waste my valuable spare time learning all the systems of some crappy trainer aircraft first before I can start using the aircraft I'm actually interested in.

 

I have zero interest in trainer aircraft being added to DCS and would much rather see developers spending their limited resources creating interesting and capable platforms that make this game (it is a computer game after all) actually fun to play.

[Xilon_x]

what would be your plane that interests you a lot?

[thezapper]

I'd like to see more helicopters. Specifically An AH-64, AH-1 and the Mi-28, with two seat multiplayer ability.

 

I'd like to play the AH-64D, but that's a current platform and unlikely to be able to get any real information on the systems, same with the Mi-28.

 

An F-15E, but again, it's too current.

[Xilon_x]

We had proposed the Westland Lynx a helicopter that has fast records and I think it is out of production and is not current.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220433

 

[Xilon_x]

 

old school italian acrobatic team LANCERI NERI whit f86 sabre

 

Edited October 16, 2018 by Xilon_x

[Svsmokey]

I think there is a community-developed player-flyable MB339 in the mods section . All you need is a skin .

[nessuno0505]

I'm italian so I would be happy if an official mb339 came to DCS, but:

- there is an unofficial mod that is quite good to be a mod; obviously an official product would be better, but something is better than nothing.

- in the past frecce tricolori used f-86 sabre and it's an official dcs product, you just have to download a skin. Again, something is better than nothing.

- mb339 is a very niche aircraft (well, also l-39 is) and I think ED is not interested in developing it. Maybe an italian 3rd party developer could do it as an official product (why not? If there's a christen eagle ii…) but for sure it wouldn't be a best seller (but neither a christen eagle ii, I think).

- As an italian I'd prefer to see developed other planes used / been used by our military forces (f-104, av-8b plus, panavia tornado), that can do aerobatics for sure but also drop bombs and missiles, thus being more operative.

[Xilon_x]

this is LANCERI NERI skin

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Xilon_x]

my desire and to have an airplane of the Italian acrobatic team that is the best in the world. the plane is the mb339 these videos I show you are with 360 degree view so you can see them as if you were in the plane.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Baco]

Actually Lots of countries use the MB-339 as a trainer AND light attack Aircraft, and some are all they got.

 

Specially useful fro DCS:

- United Emirates and Dubai Operate the MB-339 (Persian Gulf Map).

- Argentina used them in the Malvinas/Falklands conflcit.

 

 

Operators

 

Eritrean Air Force operates 5 MB-339CE.

 

Italian Air Force operates 72 MB-339A and 30 MB-339CD.

 

United Arab Emirates Air Force operates 10 MB-339NAT (inc. 4 ex-Italian).

 

USA - Draken International operates 9 MB-339CB purchased from Royal New Zealand Air Force

 

Former operators

 

Argentine Naval Aviation 10 originally delivered, withdrawn in the 1990s

 

Dubai Air Wing operated 7 MB-339A, 6 modified to MB-339NAT.

 

Ghana Air Force operated 4 MB-339A

 

Royal Malaysian Air Force operated 7 MB-339CM (15 Squadron).

 

Peruvian Air Force operated 14 MB-339AP, now stored.

 

Royal New Zealand Air Force received 18 MB-339CB used by No. 14 Squadron RNZAF between 1991 and 2002. Nine (9) aircraft are operational in the United States at a private defense contractor Draken International

 

Nigerian Air Force operated 12 MB-339AN, now stored.

[Slug72]

my desire and to have an airplane of the Italian acrobatic team [...]

 

Svsmokey pointed you to it.

 

MB-339A/PAN by Frecce Tricolori Virtuali

 

Developed to emulate the real thing, with input from actual pilots (including a former member of the Tricolori!), and an EFM in development.

[Xilon_x]

Svsmokey pointed you to it.

 

MB-339A/PAN by Frecce Tricolori Virtuali

 

Developed to emulate the real thing, with input from actual pilots (including a former member of the Tricolori!), and an EFM in development.

 

yes I have seen it but it is a mod i would rather it become an official form.

[Xilon_x]

 

[Xilon_x]

 

[Xilon_x]

 

 

[Xilon_x]

SWISS AIR FORCE

 

 

 

VIDEO 360° view

 

[Xilon_x]

Blue angels team 360° view

 

loock immage and analyze this to compare REALTY to DCS.

 

[Xilon_x]

 

JET MAN whit aereobatic team

[Xilon_x]

TEAM YAK ITALIA whit yak 50 and yak 52

 

[Gierasimov]

That is easy answer

 

what would be your plane that interests you a lot?

 

Tornado