Landing gear retracts on ground - bug or feature?

[rrohde]

I've noticed that when on the ground the landing gear can be retracted and the 29 collapses onto the tarmac; should that be happening with weight-on-wheels?

[Rudel_chw]

The real MiG-29 has no WoW safety trigger, as the handle has a lock forcing the pilot to pull the handle before moving it up or down.

[IvanK]

Edited November 14, 2018 by IvanK

[rrohde]

Ah yes, thanks guys - good to know.

 

The above video showcases nicely what happens in DCS for me when I fat-finger the controls. :)

[mvsgas]

I think this is true for most aircraft in DCS and in RL. I know for Sure the SU-25 and Mig-29 in DCS but I have never try on all of them.

 

I know the F-16 and F-117 will do it in RL

http://www.f-16.net/g3/var/resizes/f-16-photos/album30/aec.jpg?m=1371900450

[Mars Exulte]

Can confirm Su-25 does it as well... I had a "pilot" years ago set to permadeath who I killed after accidentally hitting the wrong button while taxiing. Also, I've seen RL video specifically of a MiG-29 raising the gear before he came off the ground during takeoff with the expected fiery belly drag. How it happened, I have no idea, but it is physically possible.

-edit same incident as the above video I believe, but from a different perspective. Hope Sergei enjoyed his career cleaning latrines in Siberia.

[Dr_Arrow]

It is also a safety feature on the Su-25, when the brakes fail or you are running out of runway (aborted takeoff) - you are supposed to retract the landing gear on the ground in order to stop the aircraft as the last measure.

[rrohde]

How interesting, Dr_Arrow. Never knew that - but it makes sense.

[Alfa]

Back when they ran the state acceptance trials for the Su-33 and original MiG-29K(9.31), there was an incident in which the pilot of the first MiG-29K prototype(no. 311) for some reason accidently raised the landing gear while on the carrier - causing the aircraft to collapse onto the deck.

[rrohde]

Alfa - another nice anecdote. Good to know. :)

[AeriaGloria]

I think the Russians have always had a different philosophy with safety systems, often relying on pilot knowledge to prevent failure, which has a failure point if you can’t afford lots of hours of training