This is more of a community request....

[Capn kamikaze]

With all the changes to modules are the people who do instructional videos going to replace them with more up to date versions, or at least re-edit the relevant sections that are now out of date.

 

The vids are great, but having tutorials on youtube that are in some cases more than a year out of date causes a lot of confusion.

[ChickenSim]

I've been warning people about this for a while, even Cold Start videos are going to be outdated pretty soon.

[Capn kamikaze]

Exactly, a lot of the vids are now simply wrong, and so of little to no use.

[Eviscerador]

Well, that is to be expected. Just take every video with a fair amount of age with a pinch of salt.

 

Baltic Dragon is working in the rest of the training tutorials anyway, so I expect a really good and in depth lesson on each of them.

[Shadow_1stVFW]

It's not so much that the old videos are wrong, just incomplete.

 

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[Capn kamikaze]

Some of them are now wrong in certain parts, eg how certain weapons and or sensors are set up and used.

[Kang]

You have a point there, but given how many people do tutorials for DCS (at that point: thanks to all of you), it's rather unlikely everyone is going to revise their videos. It is good to have a reminder for it, though, as hopefully some will do so once everything is more or less in place (as in: out of early access phase).

 

In all other cases, take the warning that old instructional films most often had in the beginning: always refer to your latest manual, as some information may have changed since the making of this film!

[some1]

If only manuals were kept up-to-date...

[arturojgt]

If only manuals were kept up-to-date...

 

 

 

I was checking and the Razban pocket guide seems outdated and the only updated manual is the chucks guide and only the one located in the mudspike web site.

 

https://www.mudspike.com/chucks-guides-dcs-av-8b-harrier-ii/

 

 

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[Cornelius]

I was checking and the Razban pocket guide seems outdated and the only updated manual is the chucks guide and only the one located in the mudspike web site.

 

https://www.mudspike.com/chucks-guides-dcs-av-8b-harrier-ii/

 

 

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Thank you!

[Harlikwin]

As a new guy trying to learn DCS and the harrier I gotta second the notion. Its pretty frustrating watching videos, doing what they do, and then not having the same result. I've run into this with both cold start and Mavs now. And I managed to setup my own missions for landing, refueling bombing etc due to the lack of training missions. (I then found some of those in the "missions" tab).

[baltic_dragon]

Hey guys I am hard at work on interactive tutorial missions, you will find updated progress if you click on the link to my FB page in the signature. Cheers!

 

The existing training missions are under “Training” and not “Missions”, check them out. More to come soon!

[Harlikwin]

Hi Baltic Dragon,

 

Yes I saw your post, but as I understand it your missions are not available yet? As it is I'm kludging my way through learning the Harrier/DCS over the last month or so, and I've made good progress. The main frustration is not knowing if the existing vids and documentation is right or wrong, as well as trying to make my own very simple missions on how to learn things. I've done the "Training" missions but in some cases they are far more complex than I like (the tanking mission, which is good, but too long) And in the case of the short one, for some reason I can't find the tanker, I think I spawn under it, or ahead of it etc. So I just made my own, where I start 1 mi behind the tanker with 50% fuel on the right frequency to talk to it etc, since all I want to do is practice tanking, not worry about finding it using tacan or being off frequency as I find its much easier to break down complex tasks into a set of much simpler tasks first.

Edited December 14, 2018 by Harlikwin

[Varis]

One idea could be for Razbam to organize a training event/stream while we are waiting for the fixed harrier with the updated manual.

[baltic_dragon]

Hi Baltic Dragon,

 

Yes I saw your post, but as I understand it your missions are not available yet? As it is I'm kludging my way through learning the Harrier/DCS over the last month or so, and I've made good progress. The main frustration is not knowing if the existing vids and documentation is right or wrong, as well as trying to make my own very simple missions on how to learn things. I've done the "Training" missions but in some cases they are far more complex than I like (the tanking mission, which is good, but too long) And in the case of the short one, for some reason I can't find the tanker, I think I spawn under it, or ahead of it etc. So I just made my own, where I start 1 mi behind the tanker with 50% fuel on the right frequency to talk to it etc, since all I want to do is practice tanking, not worry about finding it using tacan or being off frequency as I find its much easier to break down complex tasks into a set of much simpler tasks first.

 

 

Well as you can imagine, as vids got outdated, interactive training would become so even more, hence my decision to wait with building it until we get a pretty decent state of the module. Having said that, you should get a pretty accurate set of missions with some remarks given by real world AV-8B pilots and some inside information here and there, plus it will be free with the module. The first ones out of the production line will be cold start, conventional take off, vertical take off and landing, stores management, guns and rockets plus mavericks and sidearms.

[Harlikwin]

All stuff I now know how to do :) Tpod is the next thing I gotta figure out. Well, and to get better at refueling.

[NaCH]

Maybe read the manual of the actual startup process could help?

 

 

 

I guess is not much of an effort and maybe you can do the video yourself and update the rest?

[=DECOY=]

This is a good idea, When the planes are complete I will make all new tutorial videos to help with the changes and new procedures

[Harlikwin]

Maybe read the manual of the actual startup process could help?

 

 

 

I guess is not much of an effort and maybe you can do the video yourself and update the rest?

 

If you were replying to me, I did do that. The issue turned out to be how the controls were interfacing, ive got a 4 page thread on just that here on the first page. If i were to update chucks guide or the other refs id add in a caveat about what can go wrong and how to fix it. Reading the real manual would be worthless since you can easily check that the throttle is in the cutoff position, not so with the sim.