CybrSlydr Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 F5E or Mirage 2000? I love the F5, one of my fav looking planes. However, its lack of modern avionics is a turnoff. Same with its lack of BVR. That's why I'm thinking Mirage - looks easier to pick up than say... the F18. I currently have the A10c. Thoughts?
Py Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 Well what do you want to do with it? Is your interest just for BVR? What are your feelings about the A-10C? Did you fully learn the systems? If so did you enjoy mastering them? If not, why not? Takes more time than you want to spend? Do you just want to casually jump in and fly sometimes, or you want to fly a lot? These kinds of things will shape your decision and our recommendations...
Flia Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 Take F5. Much more fun i think. Fast and agile. Lack of modern avionics doesnt matter. PC: i7 9700K, 32 GB RAM, RTX 2080 SUPER, Tir 5, Hotas Warthog Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base with VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VKB-SIM T-RUDDER PEDALS MK.IV. Modules : NEVADA, F-5E, M-2000C, BF-109K4, A-10C, FC3, P-51D, MIG-21BIS, MI-8MTV2, F-86F, FW-190D9, UH-1H, L-39, MIG-15BIS, AJS37, SPITFIRE-MKIX, AV8BNA, PERSIAN GULF, F/A-18C HORNET, YAK-52, KA-50, F-14,SA342, C-101, F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier,I-16,MIG-19P, P-47D,A-10C_II
CybrSlydr Posted December 28, 2018 Author Posted December 28, 2018 Well what do you want to do with it? Is your interest just for BVR? What are your feelings about the A-10C? Did you fully learn the systems? If so did you enjoy mastering them? If not, why not? Takes more time than you want to spend? Do you just want to casually jump in and fly sometimes, or you want to fly a lot? These kinds of things will shape your decision and our recommendations... I'm currently at the point where I can successfully employ the Instant Action mission weapons on the A10 about 80% of the time without needing to live pause. I can do things like set weapon parameters in the stores control pages and lase bombs/engage Mavericks, rocket/gun employment. Navigation and comms are not quite my thing yet. My interest in BVR and avionics is the desire for a more... "complete" fighter (not that the modeling isn't complete, just that it has the capability). I will be playing 99% solo. CCIP/CCRP with a flight path marker seem like the absolute least I would want from a plane - hence why I'm looking at the Mirage (and my desire for the F20 over the F5 - lol).
CybrSlydr Posted December 28, 2018 Author Posted December 28, 2018 Take F5. Much more fun i think. Fast and agile. Lack of modern avionics doesnt matter. The Mirage looks even faster and more agile with the modern avionics.
baltic_dragon Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 You can’t go wrong with the M-2000C, especially that it is getting an update based on feedback from French Air Force. But I admit I am biased, having worked on the campaigns and manual - which means hundreds of hours flying the Mirage and still enjoying it! For more information, please visit my website. If you want to reach me with a bug report, feedback or a question, it is best to do this via my Discord channel. Details about the WinWing draw can be found here. Also, please consider following my channel on Facebook.
Shadow KT Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 I'd say if you really wanna go for the Mirage, wait for the system overhaul and see the feedback for it.... It is Razbam after all 'Shadow' Everybody gotta be offended and take it personally now-a-days
CybrSlydr Posted December 28, 2018 Author Posted December 28, 2018 I'd say if you really wanna go for the Mirage, wait for the system overhaul and see the feedback for it.... It is Razbam after all I'm familiar with their works in FlightSim X over at SimOuthouse - I have no issues with the quality of their work.
CybrSlydr Posted December 28, 2018 Author Posted December 28, 2018 I was considering just buying both since they're both on sale for $30 - but then I thought, if I'm going to spend the $60, why not just get the F/A-18? How much of what I know from the A-10C is transferable to the F/A-18?
Py Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 I was considering just buying both since they're both on sale for $30 - but then I thought, if I'm going to spend the $60, why not just get the F/A-18? How much of what I know from the A-10C is transferable to the F/A-18? If you don't mind a bit of learning that would definitely be my suggestion. The F/A-18 gives you a lot of flexibility in terms of what kind of missions you can do. And the "community excitement factor" means that there will likely be many single player missions and campaigns for it. As for transferrable knowledge, although nothing is identical the "mindset" of the cockpit design will make it feel reasonably familiar. MFCDs, the UFC, bombing modes etc. There are plenty of tutorials, and being under development is kind of an advantage as there is less to learn all at once.
CybrSlydr Posted December 29, 2018 Author Posted December 29, 2018 (edited) Well, I went and did what I typically do - instead of doing something cheap and simple, I spent money. lol I almost went and got the F-14 pre-order ("Well, the F5 is only $30. But I could get both the F5 and Mirage for $60. If I'm going to spend $60, I could just get the F18. But if I spend that much, for only $10 more, I could get the F-14...") but held off for now. I got the F/A-18C module. So far in the training missions, it's pretty straight-forward. I'm finding it easier to pick up than the A10 or easier because OF the A-10. Even managed to land it on the carrier - first attempt was a wave-off but managed to put 'er down successfully on the go-round. I think when I get paid on the 1st I'll pick up the F5 and/or Mirage. Thanks folks. :) Edited December 29, 2018 by CybrSlydr
Snuffy Posted December 29, 2018 Posted December 29, 2018 Yer flying in the wrong era. Yep, it's me. I got 2.5 world and then purchased the Normandy map and the WW2 Assets pack as a bundle. It's stand alone. :) I had a great time so far spending most of all last night in the mission builder tweaking.
Varis Posted December 29, 2018 Posted December 29, 2018 There's more to DCS than people see at first sight. Picking up a vintage aircraft or a helicopter (all options are good) can open a whole new world/perspective in DCS. F5 and Mirage are both good options. In the end you'll likely have "everything" :) The F-18 but it still lacks a few of the crown jewels, TWS mode for the A2A buffs for example. SA-342 Ka-50 Mi-8 AJS-37 F-18 M2000C AV-8B-N/A Mig-15bis CA --- How to learn DCS
Tiramisu Posted December 29, 2018 Posted December 29, 2018 This thread made me curious about the F5. What is so special about it compared to other aircraft?
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