Nexus-6 Posted March 22, 2019 Posted March 22, 2019 Got it to a shade past 1.7 at 36,000 with an A/A payload. 4 x AIM-7s 2 x AIM-9s Obviously it could have done a lot more, but a glance at my remaining fuel told me it was time to go home. Those F110s are thirsty! Can't pretend fly as well as you can.
Sonoda Umi Posted March 27, 2019 Author Posted March 27, 2019 How fast you can reach after today's update?
hughlb Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 2.1 clean on low fuel at 35k. Am I doing something wrong? Edited March 28, 2019 by hughlb | Windows 10 | I7 4790K @ 4.4ghz | Asus PG348Q | Asus Strix 1080TI | 16GB Corsair Vengeance 2400 DDR3 | Asrock Fatal1ty Z97 | Samsung EVO 850 500GB (x2) | SanDisk 240GB Extreme Pro | Coolermaster Vanguard S 650Watt 80+ | Fractal Design R4 | VirPil T-50 | MFG Crosswind Graphite | KW-908 JetSeat Sim Edition | TrackIR 5 | [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Rlaxoxo Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 I got up to 2.3. Did you remove the pylons under the tunnel? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
hughlb Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 I got up to 2.3. Did you remove the pylons under the tunnel? Ah, that’s the issue I’m sure. I didn’t do that. The Tomcat acceleration appears really slow above Mach 1.3, which I’m sure is accurate. Was the aircraft really draggy? It seems odd with all that power from the engines, and swept wings, I thought it would accelerate quickly. | Windows 10 | I7 4790K @ 4.4ghz | Asus PG348Q | Asus Strix 1080TI | 16GB Corsair Vengeance 2400 DDR3 | Asrock Fatal1ty Z97 | Samsung EVO 850 500GB (x2) | SanDisk 240GB Extreme Pro | Coolermaster Vanguard S 650Watt 80+ | Fractal Design R4 | VirPil T-50 | MFG Crosswind Graphite | KW-908 JetSeat Sim Edition | TrackIR 5 | [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Deano87 Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 Ah, that’s the issue I’m sure. I didn’t do that. The Tomcat acceleration appears really slow above Mach 1.3, which I’m sure is accurate. Was the aircraft really draggy? It seems odd with all that power from the engines, and swept wings, I thought it would accelerate quickly. What are you comparing it to when you say "really slow"? Not saying you're wrong, just wondering what your yardstick is. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
hughlb Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 What are you comparing it to when you say "really slow"? Not saying you're wrong, just wondering what your yardstick is. Okay, please allow me to fall on my sword. I did a level acceleration test against some contemporaries, measuring the time taken to travel from Mach 1.0 to 1.8 at 30,000ft clean. These were the results: 1:20 MiG-29A 1:40 F-14B 1:45 F-15C 2:00 Su27 >2:00 F/A-18C >2:00 MiG-21Bis So in reality, it’s quick. I am amazed by how quick the MiG-29A is, but then it tops out in the high Mach 2’s, so that perhaps isn’t surprising. Is there a reason why the F-14B tops out around 2.2, is it all about the inlet flow control? | Windows 10 | I7 4790K @ 4.4ghz | Asus PG348Q | Asus Strix 1080TI | 16GB Corsair Vengeance 2400 DDR3 | Asrock Fatal1ty Z97 | Samsung EVO 850 500GB (x2) | SanDisk 240GB Extreme Pro | Coolermaster Vanguard S 650Watt 80+ | Fractal Design R4 | VirPil T-50 | MFG Crosswind Graphite | KW-908 JetSeat Sim Edition | TrackIR 5 | [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Deano87 Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 Okay, please allow me to fall on my sword. I did a level acceleration test against some contemporaries, measuring the time taken to travel from Mach 1.0 to 1.8 at 30,000ft clean. These were the results: 1:20 MiG-29A 1:40 F-14B 1:45 F-15C 2:00 Su27 >2:00 F/A-18C >2:00 MiG-21Bis So in reality, it’s quick. I am amazed by how quick the MiG-29A is, but then it tops out in the high Mach 2’s, so that perhaps isn’t surprising. Is there a reason why the F-14B tops out around 2.2, is it all about the inlet flow control? Very interesting. I'd be interested to see what your results were with different configurations. Phoenix missile pylons only. Normal AA loadout. etc Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
Hummingbird Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) Still some problems here. at 35000ft, the Heatblur F-14B seems not capable to reach Mach 2.2 as those diagrams saying. Data from:F14AAP-1.1 Performance Charts F-14A(Plus)/F-14D None of those charts claim Mach 2.2 with those load outs... With 2x AIM-9's + 2x AIM-7's + 2x AIM54's it reaches Mach 1.95 @ 35,000 ft. As far as I can tell the HB F-14 is VERY close to performance charts. Edited March 28, 2019 by Hummingbird
Hummingbird Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 Accelerated to & maintained Mach 2.12 @ 33,400 ft in level flight. Clean bird, 80% fuel.
Eldur Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 I got up to 2.3. Did you remove the pylons under the tunnel? How did you get that fast? I always take those pylons off as well, but the max speed didn't change with the last update for me...
hughlb Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 Quick test: Max mach with 3x Aim-7, 2x Phoenix, 2x Sidewinder, 2x droptanks @ 35k ft = M 1.6 F-15C by comparison - 6x AMRAAM, 2x Sidewinder, 2x Droptanks @ 35k ft = M1.9 | Windows 10 | I7 4790K @ 4.4ghz | Asus PG348Q | Asus Strix 1080TI | 16GB Corsair Vengeance 2400 DDR3 | Asrock Fatal1ty Z97 | Samsung EVO 850 500GB (x2) | SanDisk 240GB Extreme Pro | Coolermaster Vanguard S 650Watt 80+ | Fractal Design R4 | VirPil T-50 | MFG Crosswind Graphite | KW-908 JetSeat Sim Edition | TrackIR 5 | [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Tiger-II Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) I had her up to M 2.3 at 28000 ft in a gentle dive (clean). Above the tropopause you start to lose thrust, and IAS vs. Mach reduces. There is a reason Mach is the outer scale on the 'Cat - a true sign of performance! IAS becomes irrelevant at high speed. It's the reason the SR-71 used EAS instead. IAS = your basic airspeed instrument, with errors due to installation. CAS = IAS corrected for installation errors. Reads higher than IAS. EAS = CAS corrected for compressibility effects. Reads higher then CAS. TAS = EAS corrected for temperature (derived from Mach number). Mach 2.3 ~= 23 miles/minute or 1380 kts TAS. Edited March 29, 2019 by Tiger-II Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
Sonoda Umi Posted March 29, 2019 Author Posted March 29, 2019 How did you get that fast? I always take those pylons off as well, but the max speed didn't change with the last update for me... +1
Sonoda Umi Posted March 29, 2019 Author Posted March 29, 2019 Accelerated to & maintained Mach 2.12 @ 33,400 ft in level flight. Clean bird, 80% fuel. up to M2.2 for my own tests.
diditopgun Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 No wind, 29.92, 15°C, june, 08H00, empty loadout with pylons removed, no gun ammo, 100% fuel. Take off from runway at Mineralnye Vody and climb up to 37000ft, I reach M2.2 in level flight. Then climb to 40000ft and reach again M2.2 before descending to Krasnodar to land out of fuel. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel I7 8700K / RTX 3080 / 32Go DDR4 PC21300 G.Skill Ripjaws V / MSI Z370 Gaming Pro Carbon / Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold - 1000W / Noctua NH-D14 / Acer XB270HUDbmiprz 27" G-synch 144Hz / SSD Samsung 860EVO 250Go + 1To / Cooler Master HAF X / Warthog+VPC WarBRD / Thrustmaster TPR / Track-IR v5 + Track Clip Pro / Windows 11 64bits.
csdigitaldesign Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) Mach 2.4 at 45,000 ft. No loadout except for external tanks. She really likes it up at 45k. Can go higher too, but starts to lose efficiency then. Got her up to 72k myself. There's a video on youtube from GrimReapers where Cap got it up to 109k for a moment and he held it at 100k. But good luck with that.. it's not easy. Edited April 1, 2019 by csdigitaldesign
fat creason Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Edge cases are still being tuned for thrust. I do this in my free time so it’ll be a few update cycles before I’ll be happy with it. Systems Engineer & FM Modeler Heatblur Simulations
Sonoda Umi Posted April 2, 2019 Author Posted April 2, 2019 Edge cases are still being tuned for thrust. I do this in my free time so it’ll be a few update cycles before I’ll be happy with it. :thumbup: understood
Sonoda Umi Posted April 2, 2019 Author Posted April 2, 2019 Mach 2.4 at 45,000 ft. No loadout except for external tanks. She really likes it up at 45k. Can go higher too, but starts to lose efficiency then. Got her up to 72k myself. There's a video on youtube from GrimReapers where Cap got it up to 109k for a moment and he held it at 100k. But good luck with that.. it's not easy. interesting. what's your aircraft configuration?
Eldur Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 interesting. what's your aircraft configuration? Indeed. Was trying again yesterday and still couldn't break through 2.15, as always. Tried at 33k, 36.5k, 42k, 45k and 48k. Was impossible. Standard DCS day, 20°C, F-14B clean with PH racks removed, 100% gas, gun ammo and CMs kept in. Flew from Khasab to Al Dhafra (well overshot it by almost 100nm trying to get up the speed).
Sonoda Umi Posted April 3, 2019 Author Posted April 3, 2019 Indeed. Was trying again yesterday and still couldn't break through 2.15, as always. Tried at 33k, 36.5k, 42k, 45k and 48k. Was impossible. Standard DCS day, 20°C, F-14B clean with PH racks removed, 100% gas, gun ammo and CMs kept in. Flew from Khasab to Al Dhafra (well overshot it by almost 100nm trying to get up the speed). I have a similar condition, and I never break M2.2 so far.
Eldur Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 Tried with the PH racks now. Had the impression the acceleration was much better (I was past M 2.1 already way before reaching Al Dhafra and didn't need to turn around as usual), but I still couldn't go any faster than before.
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