Fisherman82 Posted May 4, 2019 Posted May 4, 2019 I have a Warthog throttle and like to have the throttles linked because it feels better since they dont wiggle about independently. I have no problems doing air to air refuelling this way but I only have a few 3 wire landings, mostly I get the 1 or 4 wire. Maybe its just a matter of training but I wonder if its required to "walk the throttles" as I heard its called in the real world. Do all real pilots walk the throttles when landing on the carrier? Is not doing it regarded as improper flying or is it a optional techniqe that some pilots use and others dont? In the real aircraft you cant link the throttles right? Just wondering if I have to unlink them to be able to fly the ball good or If I could have them linked and just practice more. Skickat från min D5503 via Tapatalk
G B Posted May 4, 2019 Posted May 4, 2019 https://youtu.be/9aNyukzu9OU 40 second mark. That’s not me but that’s what my hands looked like.
Gladman Posted May 4, 2019 Posted May 4, 2019 I always have them joined. Never an issue. I do have some curves setup though. i9 9900K @ 5.1Ghz - ASUS Maximus Hero XI - 32GB 4266 DDR4 RAM - ASUS RTX 2080Ti - 1 TB NVME - NZXT Kraken 62 Watercooling System - Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas (Virpil Base) - MFG Crosswind Pedals - Pimax 5K+ VFA-25 Fist Of The Fleet [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic99190_2.gif[/sigpic] Virtual Carrier Strike Group 1 | Discord
AvgWhiteGuy Posted May 5, 2019 Posted May 5, 2019 Mine are joined and I use 22 curves. (TM Warthog) Asus B85 Pro Gamer - 32GB - Intel® Core i5-4460 CPU - SanDisk SDSSDXPS480G -Windows 10 Pro 64-bit - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 TrackIR5 - TM Warthog HOTAS Stick & Throttle - TM Cougar MFCDs - TM TPR Rudder Pedals - Razer Orbweaver - SoundBlasterX G5 DAC
LURKINGBADGER Posted May 5, 2019 Posted May 5, 2019 I am at least 800 pass's deep into the rabbithole and never wondered till now if that is a common thing. I can imagine it increases the work load and also making it a bit harder to account for horizontal corrections. Can Lex or AEW shine some light on that topic pls? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Hog_No32 Posted May 5, 2019 Posted May 5, 2019 I don‘t have them linked (as I never have when controlling a twin engine). I don‘t see it as something that increases my workload, I just move both simultaneously every time. Also, as I often start cold-and-dark I have to have them unlinked to put each one from OFF to IDLE individually as part of the normal startup procedure (same thing during shutdown). Sure, you can use the keyboard commands instead but for immersion I prefer to physically lift the throttle levers over the detent. Regarding walking the throttles, yes, that is something I do a lot when in the groove. Throttle levers never rest for more than half a second in any position. The same is true for aerial refuelling and any sort of close formation flying (even though to a lesser extent compared to behind the boat).
dmkellerman Posted May 5, 2019 Posted May 5, 2019 At 2:56 in this YouTube video, Sunshine from The Fighter Pilot Podcast, demonstrates what his hands are doing during a carrier approach.
BuzzU Posted May 5, 2019 Posted May 5, 2019 I don‘t have them linked (as I never have when controlling a twin engine). I don‘t see it as something that increases my workload, I just move both simultaneously every time. Also, as I often start cold-and-dark I have to have them unlinked to put each one from OFF to IDLE individually as part of the normal startup procedure (same thing during shutdown). Sure, you can use the keyboard commands instead but for immersion I prefer to physically lift the throttle levers over the detent. Regarding walking the throttles, yes, that is something I do a lot when in the groove. Throttle levers never rest for more than half a second in any position. The same is true for aerial refuelling and any sort of close formation flying (even though to a lesser extent compared to behind the boat). I agree you need them unlinked for start up and shut down, but it only takes me a second to link them back up. I have them unlinked to shut down, so next start up they're still unlinked. I suppose keeping them unlinked is more realistic. I do keep them unlinked in the P-51. Left for RPM and right for throttle. Buzz
Lex Talionis Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) I move together and walk .... so both. There is also a technique called "3 part power corrections" you can try. Where you add power momentarily from a relitive neutral position to induce a correction, take it off to arrest the previous correction, then return to the relitive neutral position to retain the glide profile. A bit hard to explain in text. Do whatever works for you. Will take practice to achieve that pilot sh!t. Edited May 6, 2019 by Lex Talionis Find us on Discord. https://discord.gg/td9qeqg
victorlima01 Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 What Lex just mentioned is what finally got me to snag 2 and 3 wires and be somewhat decent in form flying and AAR. You should try this before walking the throttles.
Cytarabine Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 I have been doing as Lex describes without even realising it, and it is useful as said for both trapping on a carrier but also aerial refuelling and formation flying. I find it necessary with the Hornet in part because of the spool up and down time of the engine. This seems particularly important as you turn in as the change in attitude can cause you to be too fast briefly but if you overcorrect you will slam yourself into the rear of the carrier. The other guild is to use your ears. You will be able to tell when you are starting to get too fast or too slow by the change in sound.
Preendog Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 The engines will start fine with throttles linked and in AB. Just roll in a circle until the second engine is started.
maxTRX Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 The engines will start fine with throttles linked and in AB. Just roll in a circle until the second engine is started. I wanna see the video of that! My all time goal is doing "donuts" on deck... j/k - mispost noted.
GrEaSeLiTeNiN Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 I simply put the flight path marker on the front of deck and move it to the back end of deck before touchdown. Works for me when landing on runway or carrier. AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming OC 8GB | 64GB G.SKILL TRIDENT Z4 neo DDR4 3600Mhz | Asus B550 TUF Plus Gaming | 2TB Aorus Gen4 TM Warthog HOTAS | TrackIR 5 | Windows 10 Home x64 | My HOTAS Profiles
victorlima01 Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 I simply put the flight path marker on the front of deck and move it to the back end of deck before touchdown. Works for me when landing on runway or carrier. Works in game, but if you're striving to do it as it's supposed to be done that will get you kicked out of flight school. You should never use the marker when ball flying. Once in groove all you've got is ball, line-up, AOA - which does in fact translate to the marker being somewhere close to the crotch. But it's the result of your ball/lineup/aoa scan, not the other way round. Took me a long time to drop the habit of using the marker as my sole source of information. Now I forget it's there.
GrEaSeLiTeNiN Posted May 9, 2019 Posted May 9, 2019 Works in game, but if you're striving to do it as it's supposed to be done that will get you kicked out of flight school. You should never use the marker when ball flying. Once in groove all you've got is ball, line-up, AOA - which does in fact translate to the marker being somewhere close to the crotch. But it's the result of your ball/lineup/aoa scan, not the other way round. Took me a long time to drop the habit of using the marker as my sole source of information. Now I forget it's there. Yes, but no flight school for me. I’m just a casual simmer having fun with the sim. I’ve tried the ‘right way’ but I rarely do carrier landings. Mostly instant missions. AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | Gigabyte RTX 3070 Gaming OC 8GB | 64GB G.SKILL TRIDENT Z4 neo DDR4 3600Mhz | Asus B550 TUF Plus Gaming | 2TB Aorus Gen4 TM Warthog HOTAS | TrackIR 5 | Windows 10 Home x64 | My HOTAS Profiles
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