Weegie Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 So it's been ages since I tried this module and after the Anton I decided to give the Dora a try again Is it just me or has anything changed? First my turn needle isn't working and the Horizon fails miserably too. I always remembered it floated but going back after the Anton, it seems the only way to get around 210-220 at the threshold, which is what I usually aim for, is to sideslip it in. It seems when you drop to idle you need to fly a long way wings level for a VERY long time to lose energy. Turn however and it bleeds energy at a staggering rate Clean takeoffs and landings are, however, as difficult as I remember :joystick: Probably just because I've been away from it. I do wish they'd fix the Horizon and Turn indicator, it's hard enough when it's working. Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpie Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 So it's been ages since I tried this module and after the Anton I decided to give the Dora a try again Is it just me or has anything changed? First my turn needle isn't working and the Horizon fails miserably too. I always remembered it floated but going back after the Anton, it seems the only way to get around 210-220 at the threshold, which is what I usually aim for, is to sideslip it in. It seems when you drop to idle you need to fly a long way wings level for a VERY long time to lose energy. Turn however and it bleeds energy at a staggering rate Clean takeoffs and landings are, however, as difficult as I remember :joystick: Probably just because I've been away from it. I do wish they'd fix the Horizon and Turn indicator, it's hard enough when it's working. Am I missing something? You're right. Something has changed on the Dora since the second to last update. I've been flying it the most out of all the WW2 planes for years and now I find that taking off is more of a pain than before, flight is more difficult, and landing properly is far worse than before. I used to be real good with the Dora taking off and landing perfectly (better than I do in the P-5 1 or the 109) now it's my worst plane. Modules: Owned: P-51D, F/A-18C, AJS-37, NTTR, F-5E, M-2000C, Bf 109, Fw 190 D-9, F-86F, Mig-15Bis, A-10C, Combined Arms, Mi-8Mtv2, UH-1H, Black Shark 2, Mig-21Bis, FC3, F-14A/B, Mig-19, Spitfire, JF-17, Persian Gulf Would Like to See: Mig-29K, Su-24, Mig-25, J-8II, J-10 , Tornado __________________ Specifications: Windows 10 64Bit, i7-7700K 4.2Ghz, GTX 1080, 16Gb RAM, T.flight Stick X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Probably due to the fact that you can now drift across the runway without even tipping over. There was a huge discussion about this and some videos which demostrate that behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpie Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Probably due to the fact that you can now drift across the runway without even tipping over. There was a huge discussion about this and some videos which demostrate that behaviour. Can you give a link to that discussion? I'd love to read it. Modules: Owned: P-51D, F/A-18C, AJS-37, NTTR, F-5E, M-2000C, Bf 109, Fw 190 D-9, F-86F, Mig-15Bis, A-10C, Combined Arms, Mi-8Mtv2, UH-1H, Black Shark 2, Mig-21Bis, FC3, F-14A/B, Mig-19, Spitfire, JF-17, Persian Gulf Would Like to See: Mig-29K, Su-24, Mig-25, J-8II, J-10 , Tornado __________________ Specifications: Windows 10 64Bit, i7-7700K 4.2Ghz, GTX 1080, 16Gb RAM, T.flight Stick X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=228306&highlight=ground+physics https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=230868&highlight=ground+physics https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=217672&highlight=ground+physics Especially this one on the second page: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3592768#post3592768 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelpie Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=228306&highlight=ground+physics https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=230868&highlight=ground+physics https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=217672&highlight=ground+physics Especially this one on the second page: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3592768#post3592768 Thank you much. Modules: Owned: P-51D, F/A-18C, AJS-37, NTTR, F-5E, M-2000C, Bf 109, Fw 190 D-9, F-86F, Mig-15Bis, A-10C, Combined Arms, Mi-8Mtv2, UH-1H, Black Shark 2, Mig-21Bis, FC3, F-14A/B, Mig-19, Spitfire, JF-17, Persian Gulf Would Like to See: Mig-29K, Su-24, Mig-25, J-8II, J-10 , Tornado __________________ Specifications: Windows 10 64Bit, i7-7700K 4.2Ghz, GTX 1080, 16Gb RAM, T.flight Stick X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegie Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 Kelpie Your experiences are exactly as mine, looking at old notes I used to trim slightly tail heavy at takeoff now almost full nose heavy. I used to be good with Takeoff and Landing too now on takeoff as the nose comes up it seems to swing one way and correcting leaves you swinging the other. Landings I seem to drift a lot worse than before To be fair the Cockpit looks much better and I think the sounds have improved too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofpandafk Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Landing has been kicking my butt real bad this past week or so since I decided to hop back in it after a while. I thought maybe I was just out of practice and had some bad habits sticking with me, but perhaps that's not the whole story after all? Taking off has been a bit of a pain but doable, then again I wasn't really that great at consistently getting a pretty takeoff run so I welcome any takeoff that leaves me flying at the end of it. I have low standards there. Maneuvering in the air seems to be the same as I remember it. A complete pain in the butt and extremely temperamental. Not sure if it's worse now than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvi Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I'm flying the Dora almost exclusively for the last 3 months and didn't notice any changes. Haven't noticed any problems during take-off or landings. Serious uglies Discord 4YA - Project Overlord WW2 Server My DCS Videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegie Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 I'm flying the Dora almost exclusively for the last 3 months and didn't notice any changes. Haven't noticed any problems during take-off or landings. It's been a long time since I flew it (9 months or longer), it could be imagination and just getting used to the way it doesn't seem to slow down. It always was the most difficult of the warbirds to take off and land in IMHO Anyway can you confirm if the turn indicator and horizon are bugged or it it just mine that's not working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 It's been a long time since I flew it (9 months or longer), it could be imagination and just getting used to the way it doesn't seem to slow down. It always was the most difficult of the warbirds to take off and land in IMHO Anyway can you confirm if the turn indicator and horizon are bugged or it it just mine that's not working? you need to uncage it. if not onsly slip indicator will work System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegie Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 Thanks but that is not the problem, the turn indicator does not seem to work either I've tried it both caged and uncaged I'll experiment some more and if it's still mishbehaving I'll post up a video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iFoxRomeo Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Noticed the non-functioning turn indicator. Interestingly: While trimming the elevator, the turn indicator shows some life. Stopping the trimming stops the turn indicator. Very strange. Fox Spoiler PC Specs: Ryzen 9 5900X, 3080ti, 64GB RAM, Oculus Quest 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegie Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 What I'm seeing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala13_ManOWar Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 If you reset the horizon is it still "not working"? It's pretty usual artificial horizon drifts after taxi, but it's working if you reset it before take-off until some more or less harsh manoeuvre drifts it again and then it can be again reset. Is reset working? S! "I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare for war, you get war." -- Major-General Frederick B. Maurice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegie Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 If you reset the horizon is it still "not working"? It's pretty usual artificial horizon drifts after taxi, but it's working if you reset it before take-off until some more or less harsh manoeuvre drifts it again and then it can be again reset. Is reset working? S! Do you mean setting it back to Caged then releasing to Uncaged again? Yes I tried that and although it resets the position it still doesn't work Obviously something is throwing it outta whack but I cannot think what The only things I'm running are Target Gui and Voice Attack. I'll try disabling them one at a time to see if that makes any difference Thanks for the suggestion, your input is much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 While trimming the elevator, the turn indicator shows some life. Seeing this too. Obviously a bug. Please fix. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeCuvier Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Guys, the problems with turn indicator and artificial horizon are "REPORTED". See threads under "Bugs and Problems" LeCuvier Windows 10 Pro 64Bit | i7-4790 CPU |16 GB RAM|SSD System Disk|SSD Gaming Disk| MSI GTX-1080 Gaming 8 GB| Acer XB270HU | TM Warthog HOTAS | VKB Gladiator Pro | MongoosT-50 | MFG Crosswind Pedals | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB 605 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 You're right. Something has changed on the Dora since the second to last update. I've been flying it the most out of all the WW2 planes for years and now I find that taking off is more of a pain than before, flight is more difficult, and landing properly is far worse than before. I used to be real good with the Dora taking off and landing perfectly (better than I do in the P-5 1 or the 109) now it's my worst plane. I had to test it after reading your "report". Probably year or so when i last flew it. Anyhow, i found it absolutely same as before. Very easy to take-off and land, delighful to fly. I honestly didn't noticed any changes in FM. CPU: Intel Core i7-2600k @3.40GHz | Motherboard: Asus P8P67-M | Memory: Kingston 8GB DDR3 | OS W10 | GPU: Sapphire R9 290x 8GBDDR5 | Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 24" | Devices: Oculus Rift, MS FFB 2 joystick, Saitek X 52 Pro throttle, Saitek Pro pedals, Gametrix Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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