Thairose Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 I've been having this issue for a while now where my manual mode preference is not used. I will set chaff and flare to 1 with 1 interval and .25 spacing like it was on bypass. No matter my setting and even on a basic mode preset the countermeasures just keep dispensing until there's nothing left. This is with man 1 selected after I have saved the new preset.
Zylon Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 Do you use the Dispense Button to drop your countermeasures?
Tholozor Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 Sounds like what Zylon said and you're hitting the Dispense button on the side wall, that's an emergency switch that releases all remaining countermeasures. REAPER 51 | Tholozor VFA-136 (c.2007): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3305981/ Arleigh Burke Destroyer Pack (2020): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313752/
Thairose Posted August 2, 2019 Author Posted August 2, 2019 What dispense button should be mapped to the hotas for ale47? All I saw in controls was dispense, then aft and forward I believe for bypass dispensing. Thanks.
Moafuleum Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 I think you are good when you map FWD and AFT for most situations. You can program the ALE 47 to put out either flares or chaff as programmed or you go with bypass mode and put out single flares and chaff by pressing the respective buttons
KittyVCAW-1 Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 I think you are good when you map FWD and AFT for most situations. You can program the ALE 47 to put out either flares or chaff as programmed or you go with bypass mode and put out single flares and chaff by pressing the respective buttons this is accurate Nobody likes me because I'm unsafe.
Zylon Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 The two buttons you have to bind are the dispense switch - aft(flare)/center(off) and dispense switch - forward(chaff)/center(off). The chaff and flare in the brackets tell you what will be dropped by which button in bypass setting. The aft will controll the selected manual programm (for example 1) and the fwd will controll the programm in front (5 if you have selected 1, 1 if you have selected 2...)
Thairose Posted August 2, 2019 Author Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) Ok so what I'm gathering is I should just stick with using aft and fwd bypass - but if so then the ale 47 system really doesnt do what it was inteded to do anymore with automatic presets where I can press and forget. I know a few months back the dispense button didn't act like an emergency-dump-everything button and would drop 1 flares/chaff as I needed it to. Now an update must have changed that. Is there any way for the dispense button to be used again to drop 1 chaff 1 flare or am I stuck with bypass? Also, is there a way to map aft and fwd together to one button? Thanks for the help guys. Edited August 2, 2019 by Thairose
razo+r Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 The aft and fwd button have to different functions, tying them to one and the same button wouldn't make sense. One of them executes the Program 1, the other one executes program 5. So in your EW page, set those two programs to your needs and then press the corresponding key to do that program.
Thairose Posted August 2, 2019 Author Posted August 2, 2019 Is there a way to get 1 chaff 1 flare within a single program again with dispense button engaging both instead of using 2 buttons from now on? The way my dispense controls are setup its awkward to have two buttons to do what one should handle for a chaff/flare hybrid prog.
Rhinozherous Posted August 2, 2019 Posted August 2, 2019 Is there a way to get 1 chaff 1 flare within a single program again with dispense button engaging both instead of using 2 buttons from now on? The way my dispense controls are setup its awkward to have two buttons to do what one should handle for a chaff/flare hybrid prog. Just go with Main switch to ON and use only dispense fwd to just use program 5. I think it is by default set to 1 chaff 1 flare in a few cycles. Not sure on this altough. i7-14700KF 5.6GHz Water Cooled /// ZOTAC RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB /// 32GB RAM DDR5 /// Win11 /// SSDs only DCS - XP12 - MSFS2020
Zylon Posted August 3, 2019 Posted August 3, 2019 I don‘t understand your problem. Like I told you, you have to bind the dispense switch fwd and the dispense switch aft. Aft triggers the selected manual programm and fwd the previous programm (prog 5, if you have selected prog 1). Ale 47 work as intended, what makes you think it doesn‘t? It fires the selected program till it is finished and how you selected your program to be. If you want to fire one flare and one chaff at a time, there is nothing that hinders you to set your program up that way. If you want one flair for aft and one chaff for fwd you can set your programs up for that aswell. Let me walk you through the process to get one program for one chaff and flair per button press: -switch on your ale47 and dispenser -go to the EW page on your DDI -press the pushbutton with ale47 under it (you have to be in the air to do so) -after ale47 is boxed, press the mode pushbutton, till „man 1“ is shown under ale 47 -press ARM to get into the programms -now you can see that prog one has 1 chaff and 1 flair and repeats 10 times -press the rpt button and then the down arrow till rpt is 1 aswell -press save to save the programm -if you want to set up different programms you can switch through them by the step button (press save before step) -now you can press return to get back to the EW page
Thairose Posted August 4, 2019 Author Posted August 4, 2019 I dont understand it either. Because that used to work since I first bought the f18. I could use the dispense button (without aft or fwd) to dump both flare and chaff in one press, on any prog i set. Now no matter program its on, it will dump flares and chaff until empty. What is the point to having the dispense button if it can't really be used? If it was used for emergency jettison of all the countermeasure it will dump all 30 flares but have some chaff still left over.
Zylon Posted August 4, 2019 Posted August 4, 2019 I dont understand it either. Because that used to work since I first bought the f18. I could use the dispense button (without aft or fwd) to dump both flare and chaff in one press, on any prog i set. Now no matter program its on, it will dump flares and chaff until empty. What is the point to having the dispense button if it can't really be used? If it was used for emergency jettison of all the countermeasure it will dump all 30 flares but have some chaff still left over. I think you are mixing up two buttons/switches right now. You said you use the dispense button without aft or fwd. This is indeed correct, since there is no other way to use the dispense button, because aft and fwd are with the dispense SWITCH not BUTTON. They are on two different parts of the cockpit. The thing you are using is the dispense button, that is loated on the left wall of the cockpit (big red button with dips written on it). It is a last resort panic button you only use when shit really hits the fan and you are not set up for using your manual programms (which you normaly set up before entering a hostile zone). So you are NOT supposed to use that button at all. The thing you are supposed to use is the dispense switch on your throttle. With that you use the manual programms you can set up in the EW-page. If you want that program that just drops 1 chaff and 1 flair at the same time, you can set up prog 1 for that and use dispense switch aft to use it. If the dispense button dropped only one flair and on chaff per press before one of the last patches, it was a bug, because it should dropp all flair and 40 chaff (in the basic cm loadout of 60 chaff and 30 flair).
Thairose Posted August 5, 2019 Author Posted August 5, 2019 Alright I'll try again with all of this info. Thanks Zylon.
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