Hornet shore-based instrument profiles

[Arink429]

Hi.

 

There’s a lot of information regarding Hornet carrier approaches profiles, but I didn’t found any info about shore airfields, except for visual pattern. What’s the typical profile for a Shore based TACAN approach? (For flaps and gear down distances/altitudes)

 

 

Thanks.

 

Antonio.

[Harker]

Hi.

 

There’s a lot of information regarding Hornet carrier approaches profiles, but I didn’t found any info about shore airfields, except for visual pattern. What’s the typical profile for a Shore based TACAN approach? (For flaps and gear down distances/altitudes)

 

 

Thanks.

 

Antonio.

There's a training mission for an IFR TACAN approach, also shown in this video https://youtu.be/QbAnnNP618Y.

Also, Navy pilots usually practice CASE I approaches when landing on airbases as well, to maintain the skill. As for regular approaches, each airport has approach plates and I assume that you follow those, unless otherwise instructed. Gear and flaps drop at 250 knots.

[Ramsay]

There’s a lot of information regarding Hornet carrier approaches profiles, but I didn’t found any info about shore airfields, except for visual pattern. What’s the typical profile for a Shore based TACAN approach? (For flaps and gear down distances/altitudes).

 

I'm not sure, I don't think there's anything special, it's similar to a carrier TACAN landing.

 

Assuming Cherry Point (KNKT) is typical, you are looking to hold at or descend to an approach fix at 1,600 ft / DME 6 nm *

 

When cleared to continue - gear and flaps down, stable, etc. at the 1,600 ft / 6 nm fix

 

Continuing your approach - Minimum Decision Height is approx. 500 ft AGL - 1 1/4 nm visual

 

Go around is at DME 2 nm (climb to holding point at 1,600 ft and follow ATC directions)

 

Instrument Approach Procedures KNKT Cherry Point : https://www.airnav.com/airport/KNKT

 

* For Cherry Point a DME 6 nm = 4.7 nm from runway threshold.

Edited August 24, 2019 by Ramsay

[Eaglewings]

Don't airports charts have landing procedures.

I really would love missions designed to do proper takeoff and landing procedures using charts.

[Harker]

Don't airports charts have landing procedures.

I really would love missions designed to do proper takeoff and landing procedures using charts.

There are some missions that require you to do a left or right overhead break and the ATC will scold you if you mess it up (custom sound files via triggers). For a native implementation, we'd have to wait for the improved ATC comms and hope we see something like that. Judging by the previews of the new carrier comms, I'm hopeful.

[Eaglewings]

There are some missions that require you to do a left or right overhead break and the ATC will scold you if you mess it up (custom sound files via triggers). For a native implementation, we'd have to wait for the improved ATC comms and hope we see something like that. Judging by the previews of the new carrier comms, I'm hopeful.

Yes I flown some mostly in the NTTR Nevada map.

 

I see in both the Caucasus and NTTR maps, some airports are very close and in such cases, flying normal procedures prevents entry into areas restricted.

In these cases, proper departure/approach route prescribed in airfield charts would help.

 

Doing these procedures as close to the real life procedures for each airfield adds to the immersion for me.

 

Very hopeful that when the detailed ATC comms comes on board, proper tacan radios and chart procedures would be utilized to control air traffic around the airport.

Edited August 25, 2019 by Eaglewings

[Emmy]

We have some departures and approaches in the Caucuses in our FLIPs which you can download:

 

http://www.476vfightergroup.com/downloads.php?do=cat&id=44

[GoshawkBall]

Basically if you want the strike instrument experience, fly HI-TACANs with the penetration. Go idle+speed brakes at the top and then ride the penetration onto the final segment. Apart from that just make sure youre configured crossing the FAF and fly the final portion at on speed aoa

[Eaglewings]

We have some departures and approaches in the Caucuses in our FLIPs which you can download:

 

http://www.476vfightergroup.com/downloads.php?do=cat&id=44

Thanks.

I am quite familiar with that virtual squadron. There is nice dude there who did a video on departure procedure from nellis Airport

I found that very neat and informative.

[Flamin_Squirrel]

This is a great site for US based airfields: http://www.airnav.com/airports/

 

There are some missions that require you to do a left or right overhead break and the ATC will scold you if you mess it up (custom sound files via triggers). For a native implementation, we'd have to wait for the improved ATC comms and hope we see something like that. Judging by the previews of the new carrier comms, I'm hopeful.

 

I very much doubt you're going to be doing an overhead brake on an instrument approach.

[Lex Talionis]

.... Just know how to read approach plates and know what to do where per FAR 91. That said, if the field you are to land at has an approach, flying those will cover anything practical for the game.

 

As far as carrier IFR procedures at the field, it's just not done. We simply fly approaches as found on approach plates like the rest of commercial and general aviation. Have to play nice in the sandbox with everyone else.

 

:)

Edited August 26, 2019 by Lex Talionis

[Harker]

This is a great site for US based airfields: http://www.airnav.com/airports/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I very much doubt you're going to be doing an overhead brake on an instrument approach.

 

Of course you wouldn't do an overhead break on an instrument approach, I was just saying that there are some custom mission in User Files that use triggers to simulate ATC reactions, they just happen to request overhead breaks, but not in IFR conditions. Little OT

[stenji]

Of course you wouldn't do an overhead break on an instrument approach, I was just saying that there are some custom mission in User Files that use triggers to simulate ATC reactions, they just happen to request overhead breaks, but not in IFR conditions. Little OT

 

Which oines i.e.? May you point at someone of them?

[Harker]

Which oines i.e.? May you point at someone of them?

I think the Eastern Friendship campaign for the F-18 has that.

[Eaglewings]

I think the Eastern Friendship campaign for the F-18 has that.

Correct. FA-18C Eastern friendship campaign has it.

However I do not know if the mistake is intended to activate the voiced script that apologizes to the traffic controller.

 

I believe the ATC will tell you right-hand break and when you do a right-hand break, she would tell you it was the other side(left to me) that was instructed.

It gets confusing because from my approach point which is waypoint 5 I think, right hand side to me is different for the ATC lady.

[Harker]

Correct. FA-18C Eastern friendship campaign has it.

However I do not know if the mistake is intended to activate the voiced script that apologizes to the traffic controller.

 

I believe the ATC will tell you right-hand break and when you do a right-hand break, she would tell you it was the other side(left to me) that was instructed.

It gets confusing because from my approach point which is waypoint 5 I think, right hand side to me is different for the ATC lady.

I got this the first time I flew that mission, but not the second one. I think I flew through the wrong trigger zone or something the first time, even though I performed the correct break. I might've turned too late or been too left/right with respect to the runway or something.

[Yeti42]

For Nellis see:

https://www.airnav.com/airport/KLSV

You're looking for TACAN approaches, Minimums are around 600 ft AGL.