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Problems for Gripen in switzerland...

" two confidential Swiss Air Force reports conclude that the Swedish-made Gripen combat aircraft does not meet minimal air policing requirements, contrary to declarations made last November by Defense Minister Ueli Maurer who said the Gripen “satisfied Swiss military requirements.”

 

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3acdbe4d08-e716-4d22-bdef-fb707ccd5610&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest

 

What is interesting is that Rafale scored even better than Typhoon....

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Would need a 100 000 € kick start first. Or abandoning all current life and leave for years of modular training. :( No chance, have thought through and it's just the money...

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Also, in Part 2, at 5:50, refueling with Afterburner? WTF?

 

Fuel goes in one end and out the other :D

 

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Its important to not that, the effecteviness rate is entirely dependent of Swiss particular requirements. The scores could be didfferent in light of different requirements. this is an old report too, from 2008, not the one taken in consideration for the winner.

 

Its also noteworthy, they mention radar ID to be inferior on the Eurofighter. The french radar although not as long ranged have always been famed for superior target descrimination.

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Its important to not that, the effecteviness rate is entirely dependent of Swiss particular requirements. The scores could be didfferent in light of different requirements. this is an old report too, from 2008, not the one taken in consideration for the winner.

 

The whole evaluation was a strange: 1st of all no Russian fighters were evaluated (cold war is over or isn't it???) My opinion: you could at least test them and then tell everybody how bad it is but if you don't test them you just don't know it.

 

2nd: We have chosen the F/A-18C and D Hornet, a USN aircraft and we are a country without a Navy, without Aircraft Carriers, without access to the sea and without ambition to fight a war anywhere overseas. (It is not a bad aircraft don't get me wrong but you also won't build subs to use in a lake...) The Hornet was preferred to the Mirage 2000 also because of the safety aspects considering single-engine aircraft.

Nowadays this aspect doesn't plays a role anymore...

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SFM? AFM? EFM?? What's this?

 

 

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Or having the best plane & deal to offer. :thumbup: Maybe that counted :smartass:

 

Go Rafale! :pilotfly::D

 

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Cheers :)

Az'

 

I don't get it, they make Rafale almost as preety as an F16, but then put a FIXED refueling probe on it. :doh: Lorena bobbitt, where are you now?

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The whole evaluation was a strange: 1st of all no Russian fighters were evaluated (cold war is over or isn't it???) My opinion: you could at least test them and then tell everybody how bad it is but if you don't test them you just don't know it.

 

2nd: We have chosen the F/A-18C and D Hornet, a USN aircraft and we are a country without a Navy, without Aircraft Carriers, without access to the sea and without ambition to fight a war anywhere overseas. (It is not a bad aircraft don't get me wrong but you also won't build subs to use in a lake...) The Hornet was preferred to the Mirage 2000 also because of the safety aspects considering single-engine aircraft.

Nowadays this aspect doesn't plays a role anymore...

 

The Russian fighters would loose straight away when considering logistics and maintenance costs alone, forget perfomance. Parts are on a premium due to intermediaries who charge them too much. having to Send the engines back to Russia to overhaul and then deal with their organisation hassles is a show stopper. Only those who are banned on the western markets or politicaly out of favour will aquire them (Not to mention they would have to be modfied to be allowed to fly In western Europe). Theres also the European lobies of course. European countries will buy European unless thay are out of options (then they go USA).

 

All export F-18's are without a carrier, and they perform up to the standards, it doesnt really matter its a carrier capable, if anything its an option, not a shortcomming.

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The Russian fighters would loose straight away when considering logistics and maintenance costs alone, forget perfomance. Parts are on a premium due to intermediaries who charge them too much. having to Send the engines back to Russia to overhaul and then deal with their organisation hassles is a show stopper. Only those who are banned on the western markets or politicaly out of favour will aquire them (Not to mention they would have to be modfied to be allowed to fly In western Europe). Theres also the European lobies of course. European countries will buy European unless thay are out of options (then they go USA).

 

All export F-18's are without a carrier, and they perform up to the standards, it doesnt really matter its a carrier capable, if anything its an option, not a shortcomming.

 

Germany flow the MiG-29 in Europe and Slovakia still does also with specially modified ones (MiG-29AS or SD) so does Poland which received the German ones instead of scrapping them and they use them to extend their existing fleet not only as a spare parts donator (or am I wrong with that?).

 

Indias fighter evaluation also included Russian fighters and it is neither banned or out of favor.

 

Btw. Boeing retreated their offer for the F/A-18E and F Super Hornet, which is in my view not the newest (meaning not the fancy, high-tech, high-cost fighter) but the easiest to adapt to our air force. Having a fleet of Hornets and Super Hornets would have been comfortable IMHO.

 

I guess saying that Boeing already saw the political dispute about it coming, is a bit extreme.

But still it seems strange to me: the Super Hornet is older concept than the Eurofighter and the Rafale but still isn't outdated that's why they also offered it to India. And the contract is still worth 3 bill. dollars so even Boeing wouldn't take it as "peanuts" ?

 

I don't get their statement: http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=157

Can't tell if their Super Hornet is not meeting minimal req. or max requirements?

 

:poster_offtopic: I know, sorry...

[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Waiting to build a F/A-18C home-pit...

ex - Swiss Air Force Pilatus PC-21 Ground Crew

SFM? AFM? EFM?? What's this?

 

 

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Maybe only a few of you guys know it but there still nothing comparable around to use in Hot and High conditions.

This thing still lifts about 500kg at 3000m ASL, without flashing all the lights in the cockpit and without burning fuel in 2 engines.

 

Sud-Aviaton (Now Eurocopter) SA-315B Lama

 

Widely used in Switzerland for construction work in remote areas, tourism and off course rescue missions.

 

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[sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Waiting to build a F/A-18C home-pit...

ex - Swiss Air Force Pilatus PC-21 Ground Crew

SFM? AFM? EFM?? What's this?

 

 

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US may rely on aging U-2 spy planes longer than expected

 

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/global-eye/22797-us-may-rely-on-aging-u-2-spy-planes-longer-than-expected

 

U-2 spyplanes in service; the earliest the U-2 would be retired is 2023.

 

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The improved U-2S Dragon Lady, Block 20, aircraft taxis to the runway at Osan Air Base, South Korea.

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If you get a mis match between the Tanker and receiver envelope (cant always tank at exactely the level you want) things can get a bit touchy especially towards the end of transfer. In the case of the Tornado (and Jaguar) which seem prone to being in this part of the tanking envelope they have "Part Throttle Reheat" switches. These allow a little bit of burner but more importantly RPM control as well.

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