stuart666 Posted November 2, 2019 Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) Im not entirely sure if this is a problem or not, but its causing me great annoyance. Im going through the abbreviated checklist, ive got air, ive got electric, and im trying to start up the right engine first. I wait till about 20 percent, and it wont turn over. The left starts just fine. This is on multiplayer. Even worse, I seem to have the same problem reoccur immediately after coming out of the particular role in the multiplayer group and going back in. Can anyone reproduce this, or is my own sticky finger at fault? Edited November 3, 2019 by IronMike
MurderOne Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 IRL, left engines always started first; try that. Sorry, no cool signature here.
stuart666 Posted November 3, 2019 Author Posted November 3, 2019 Oh dear, am I letting the Hornet influence me? Thanks for that.
Rudel_chw Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 The manual of the real plane says that either engine can be started first .. this is my summary of the start procedure: https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ai6cuX3YQI26hNYPSD9QsunE2om7Zg For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
*Aquila* Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 NAVAIR 01-F14AAP-1 : 10.3.2 Start 6. ENG CRANK switch — L (left engine). Observe AUX and PARK brake pressure rise. Observe combined hydraulic system pressure rise. 7. ENG CRANK switch — OFF. 8. ENG CRANK switch — R (right engine). Observe flight hydraulic system pressure rise. 9. ENG CRANK switch — OFF. Anyway, it also works for me if I start the right engine first.
stuart666 Posted November 3, 2019 Author Posted November 3, 2019 Yeah, I just tried the left hand one, I get the electric, I get the air, I turn on oxygen, I select startup from Jester, he pulls down the canopy, I get the ok to crank, I wait till I get to 20 percent, click the throttle, and nothing. This is in multiplayer, can anyone else confirm this is happening to them? Its an abbreviated checklist, but I believe im hitting all the essentials.
*Aquila* Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 Just tried in MP. No problem. Sometimes, when you click on the throttles, they go too far forward. Did you make sure you kept them to idle position?
Rudel_chw Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 NAVAIR 01-F14AAP-1 : ... Same manual, page 7-15: 7.4.3 Engine Start — Pilot. Prior to engine start, the pilot and plane captain should ascertain that the turnup area is clear of FOD hazards, adequate firesuppression equipment is readily available, and engine intakes and exhausts are clear. Although the engines cannot be started simultaneously, either engine can be started first. The following procedure establishes starting the right engine first. If the OP is performing the same procedure and it only fails on MP, then I believe that it is likely a Bug. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
stuart666 Posted November 3, 2019 Author Posted November 3, 2019 Just tried the tuition startup, worked fine. Tried again without the test but doing pretty much everything else (including turning the Hydraulics off) in multiplayer and again it wont start. I forget which multiplayer server I was trying on, but it was a Persian gulf one if anyone wants to give it a try. Though im pretty sure ive had some starting problems on the caucasus server as well. Thats an interesting point about throttles, I will try that. I would suggest though that if its a recurring problem, it probably ought to be flagged as a bug anyway.
stuart666 Posted November 3, 2019 Author Posted November 3, 2019 Server was buddyspike blueflag persiangulf. Ive replicated the problem 3 or 4 times now.
lbellouny Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 It may be a silly question, but did you fuel the jet? A lot of multiplayer servers don’t have fuel in the jets. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Retired CO of the vCSG-3's VF-103 Jolly Rogers
stuart666 Posted November 3, 2019 Author Posted November 3, 2019 Yeah, pretty sure it was. I had it armed and fueled at the same time. This is really dispiriting that nobody else can replicate this. :(
stuart666 Posted November 3, 2019 Author Posted November 3, 2019 Oh dear, do I feel silly.... Ibellouny, thank you so much for that,you absolutely nailed it. The server didnt host the jets with fuel in them. This has been bugging me all weekend! Note to self, check the fuel gauges before takeoff. :D Sorry fellas for this, many thanks to you all for trying to clear it up.
IronMike Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 Note to self, check the fuel gauges before takeoff. :D First you gave me a shock, because the "right engine not starting after being hit" bug gives me nightmares, and I was thinking already it "expanded" lol, but hey the laugh at the end was worth it! :D In any case, no worries. I've sat around issues for much more stupid reasons before, that's why it never hurts to ask. Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
Ignition Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 First you gave me a shock, because the "right engine not starting after being hit" bug gives me nightmares, and I was thinking already it "expanded" lol, but hey the laugh at the end was worth it! :D In any case, no worries. I've sat around issues for much more stupid reasons before, that's why it never hurts to ask. I guess the right engine bug isn't fixed? I had it recently in a mp server after beeing shot down, leaving the server and rejoining didn't fix it. Left engine started normaly.
Eihort Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 Ditto. Just experienced this in MP with a multicrew Tomcat getting hit and then respawning in a different slot as well.
IronMike Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 Yes, we are still hunting it, or better: it still haunting us. But let us not mix it in this thread please, as it is an entirely different topic in fact. Thanks. Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
stuart666 Posted November 4, 2019 Author Posted November 4, 2019 First you gave me a shock, because the "right engine not starting after being hit" bug gives me nightmares, and I was thinking already it "expanded" lol, but hey the laugh at the end was worth it! :D In any case, no worries. I've sat around issues for much more stupid reasons before, that's why it never hurts to ask. Im glad it raised a smile.:doh:
draconus Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 The server didnt host the jets with fuel in them. Then why "The left starts just fine" without fuel? Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
stuart666 Posted November 4, 2019 Author Posted November 4, 2019 Then why "The left starts just fine" without fuel? That was on another server, and I think that was probably another problem. its not always that easy to tell in vr when you are at 20 percent. It may be the case that ive clicked on a throttle when I thought I was at 20 percent, but was in fact below it. What I normally do now is count to 5 slowly when I think its at 20 percent, and I know its there. Which begs the question. If you DO cook an engine, is it possible that, if you only change roles to another F14 slot, it may carry that damage across? I had the same problem occur two or three times on a carrier where one engine would start but the other would not. Not recently, but it has happened.
draconus Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 I had the same problem occur two or three times on a carrier where one engine would start but the other would not. Not recently, but it has happened. It might be the scary "right engine not starting after being hit" problem Mike already mentioned. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
IronMike Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 It might be the scary "right engine not starting after being hit" problem Mike already mentioned. sssshhhht! don't mention it! it might hear us! :shocking: Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
stuart666 Posted November 4, 2019 Author Posted November 4, 2019 It might be the scary "right engine not starting after being hit" problem Mike already mentioned. Ah, it was a halloween bug, gotcha. :D Well ive not noticed that lately so hopefully its gone away.
IronMike Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 Ah, it was a halloween bug, gotcha. :D Well ive not noticed that lately so hopefully its gone away. It really should happen only if you have been hit or took damage otherwise. If it happens just like that, on start, for you, please open a new report. Heatblur Simulations Please feel free to contact me anytime, either via PM here, on the forums, or via email through the contact form on our homepage. http://www.heatblur.com/ https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
stuart666 Posted November 5, 2019 Author Posted November 5, 2019 It really should happen only if you have been hit or took damage otherwise. If it happens just like that, on start, for you, please open a new report. Im not certain of it enough at present to start a new report, but Ill experiment and keep and eye on it. I certainly shall if I can confirm it.
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