[REPORTED] Radar antenna elevation recentering

[M0ltar]

The is more of a user convenience bug due to user hardware. The antenna elevation auto recenter on certain axis that are spring loaded to recenter. This is due, from what I understand, to the fact that the real Viper does not have a spring loaded antenna elevation axis so if you use one as a control input it will auto center.

 

Here is a video comparing the F18 and the F16 and the behavior I am talking about. You will see that the F18 radar antenna elevation will stay where it is supposed to while the F16 recenters on its own. I'm surmising that this is due to the real jets design. The F18 has a spring loaded antenna elevation axis while the F16 does not.

 

 

 

The easiest fix for this in my mind would be to put in a specials option that would allow the F16 axis to work like the F18's does. That would allow users control over what type of input device they have an what axis they have available on their controllers.

[Wicked.-]

The F-16 doesn’t recenter on its own. It is an absolute axis that moves 1:1 with the radar dish when moved. If you have a Cougar TQS or Warthog throttle it works as it should now. Set the Antenna Elevation axis to the Cougar Antenna Elevation. Set the Warthog slider to the the Antenna Elevation. When you move either, the antenna will move up or down with the movement and stay there when you stop moving which is correct.

The Hornet switch on the other hand DOES recenter and should stop the radar where it is when you stop holding the switch up or down.

[Hummingbird]

It's still not working properly for those of us who are forced to use buttons. It's really frustrating at this point.

[M0ltar]

The F-16 doesn’t recenter on its own. It is an absolute axis that moves 1:1 with the radar dish when moved. If you have a Cougar TQS or Warthog throttle it works as it should now. Set the Antenna Elevation axis to the Cougar Antenna Elevation. Set the Warthog slider to the the Antenna Elevation. When you move either, the antenna will move up or down with the movement and stay there when you stop moving which is correct.

The Hornet switch on the other hand DOES recenter and should stop the radar where it is when you stop holding the switch up or down.

 

 

I dont think you read or watched the video that I posted. The Winwing Throttle has a recentering radar elevation axis as the hornet should. I recognize that the F16 is working as it should in game, but for those of us that have an actual spring loaded axis it breaks the radar elevation for the 16 in game as the actual 16 axis in the real jet is NOT spring loaded. This means that if you have a spring loaded axis irl it causes the 16 in game to recenter. This makes the 16 unflyable. Yes I could bind it to buttons, but I want to bind the radar elevation to the radar elevation axis on my throttle where it should go.

Edited December 5, 2019 by M0ltar

[NineLine]

The dev responsible would like to know what is the expected results with a spring loaded axis. Thanks.

[RuskyV]

Does setting the axis as a slider not work in the axis options? Or will it re centre because the axis you use has a spring?

I think in the winwing software you can change some axis to buttons inputs, if you can it would just be a case of mapping a button in DCS. 

[Frederf]

This would be a request for two axis controls, an absolute one and a relative one. I assume Winwing controllers can be programmed for absolute output in the meantime.

[Jeb]

wish this would get fixed with the hornet throttle radar elevation wheell on the f16 module

[Schmidtfire]

The solution would be for ED developers to copy the F/A-18C Antenna Elevation / control functionality to the F-16C.  Either as a new binding or box in special options.

Should work well for other Throttles with same sort of issue. Like using the centering rocker axis on Thrustmaster TWCS.

Edited March 14, 2023 by Schmidtfire

[Scott-S6]

On 12/5/2019 at 2:47 AM, Hummingbird said:

It's still not working properly for those of us who are forced to use buttons. It's really frustrating at this point.

Same problem with rotary encoders as well.

[104th_Crunch]

I just bought a nice new Mongoos T-50CM3 Throttle. This situation works both ways. If you use an encoder wheel, like the one on the Mongoos, it will control the F-16 Radar elevation nicely, as it is similar to the real F-16, but using an encoder wheel with the F-18 Radar elevation moves too slowly because it is set up to return to center.

I realize this is accurate to the real planes, but it forces you to use 2 different controls on your HOTAS for each plane or use hat buttons for both which are the same. It would be nice to have the option to make the radar elevation of the F-18 work like the F-16, or conversely, have the F16 radar elevation work like the F-18.

Thanks!