Xthedarkknight99x Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 I can try the tray tool again. I just had not installed it since the reformat which broke all the normal stuff I use. The thing with my system is I see about a 50% use on the gpu and a 30 percent use on the cpu. The reason I find this to be important is because it feels as though asw is breaking. I press cntrl 3 to set asw on at 45 and I will seemly have some fps drops below 45 that is when the jutter and ghosting really hit hard. At this point I'm just laying my troubles out there because it might help someone. When I couldn't be helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I would think you would see better usage numbers out of the GPU. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunSlingerAUS Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Can I ask if you're doing any kind of standardised testing each time? Your best approach is to do the exact same quick start mission each time you change something with VR. For example, I use the F14 quick start take off mission to see how changes affect performance. Take off with full burners, fly low over the town to the left, then head right over the trees, all with fps counter on. This demanding scenario quickly shows me whether I'm getting better or worse performance. In the absence of a dedicated benchmark mode, this is the best we can do. Having said that, VR in DCS leaves much to be desired, to the point that I'm now flying much more IL2 with its dependable and smooth performance. BTW, there's a lot of very weird advice on these forums, such as the 2080 Ti only working well when under extreme load, or changing your anisotropic filtering to improve performance, or that having a locked 45fps with ASW removes ghosting. As such I'd suggest going to a dedicated hardware forum for your given VR HMD instead of looking for advice here. You'll get more accurate information from specialised VR communities. Edited December 23, 2019 by GunSlingerAUS Intel 11900K/NVIDIA RTX 3090/32GB DDR4 3666/Z590 Asus Maximus motherboard/2TB Samsung EVO Pro/55" LG C9 120Hz @ 4K/Windows 10/Jotunheim Schiit external headphone amp/Virpil HOTAS + MFG Crosswind pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tic-Tac Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Tic-Tac. Did what you suggested and it worked like a charm. Without changing anything else the ghosting almost disappeared.. Sendt fra min SM-G975F med Tapatalk Good news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xthedarkknight99x Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 Can I ask if you're doing any kind of standardised testing each time? Your best approach is to do the exact same quick start mission each time you change something with VR. For example, I use the F14 quick start take off mission to see how changes affect performance. Take off with full burners, fly low over the town to the left, then head right over the trees, all with fps counter on. This demanding scenario quickly shows me whether I'm getting better or worse performance. In the absence of a dedicated benchmark mode, this is the best we can do. Having said that, VR in DCS leaves much to be desired, to the point that I'm now flying much more IL2 with its dependable and smooth performance. BTW, there's a lot of very weird advice on these forums, such as the 2080 Ti only working well when under extreme load, or changing your anisotropic filtering to improve performance, or that having a locked 45fps with ASW removes ghosting. As such I'd suggest going to a dedicated hardware forum for your given VR HMD instead of looking for advice here. You'll get more accurate information from specialised VR communities. Yeah i've posted at the Oculus forums with basically the same original post. Lots of looks but no replies. I get that a lot on forums. As far as the testing. I basically start an air mission on Caucasus and dive towards the ground and fly over the ground for a bit. That's ultimately been how I run my test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redlinebuzz Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 This is what eventually corrected my issue as well. I would think DCS would create a simple process to correct this issue without forcing user to delve into the Forum for two weeks ;) No excuse for this in almost 2020. The beta branch has the new Normandy which I play most and what a treat it is once I could get a reasonable FR and graphics. This is what flight simming was supposed to be all along ;) Elite Dangerous rebuilds it's shaders every time there's a driver update, or you can force it to do it every time the game starts, can't be that hard to implement ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Elite Dangerous rebuilds it's shaders every time there's a driver update, or you can force it to do it every time the game starts, can't be that hard to implement ? I think I saw a post somewhere from ED, that they were investigating possibilities for this Can't find the post now though System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick33 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 This is what eventually corrected my issue as well. I would think DCS would create a simple process to correct this issue without forcing user to delve into the Forum for two weeks ;) No excuse for this in almost 2020. The beta branch has the new Normandy which I play most and what a treat it is once I could get a reasonable FR and graphics. This is what flight simming was supposed to be all along ;)The downside is if the user isn't impacted then they have to endure the increased loading times to build the shader files and ED would probably get a load of complaints of loading times every update - no excuse in 2020! There seems a lot of variability in experience. AMD 5800X3D · MSI 4080 · Asus ROG Strix B550 Gaming · HP Reverb Pro · 1Tb M.2 NVMe, 32Gb Corsair Vengence 3600MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · VIRPIL T-50CM3 Base, Alpha Prime R. VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Base. JetSeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobinjaevel Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I've noticed some change aswell. I use the CV1, been using VR in DCS since Dk1, I never get motion sick but I've been getting very faint dizzyness feeling since last Oculus update aswell. For now I play sorter sessions, hoping for a quick fix. Thanks for the thread, now I feel that it might be software and I'm not the one that's changed :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Indeed "good" to see that I'm not the only ones having issues with ghosting lately. Without changing any settings, from one day to the other I noticed the severe ghosting (probably after an update. Can't remember really) I tried deleting the shaders folders as mentioned above, but unfortunately without any improvement I did notice when I set ASW to 1, the ghosting disappears, but this results in some stuttering when turning my head quickly. System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOYKILLA Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Its a Oculus Home update Problem, we have also some issues in our Simracing Forum. Gesendet von meinem SM-G973F mit Tapatalk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Thrustmaster Warthog SLM - F/A-18 , MFG Crosswind V2 , Cougar MFD`s , HP Reverb , PointCtrl , i9@5,1Ghz/2080Ti, :joystick: DIY 2DOF Motionsimulator with 4Ch Simshaker :joystick: https://www.facebook.com/micsmotionsimulator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 For Oculus users with performance issues, be sure and enable the Public Test Channel. There have been a couple of updates to it over the past few days that I am seeing reports of folks over on the Oculus forum that were having issues getting better performance. I am on the PTC and so far not seeing any major performance issue. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xthedarkknight99x Posted December 24, 2019 Author Share Posted December 24, 2019 I enabled the latest public test channel. Now with the Oculus tray tool I can fly pretty much without the ghosting. Ghosting however still occurs when I turn on the mirrors in the f14. I Also did some things where I locked my boosted clocks on my gpu so I will need to test to see if it performs the same without those settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobinjaevel Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 For Oculus users with performance issues, be sure and enable the Public Test Channel... Thanks, will double check that I've enabled it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 For Oculus users with performance issues, be sure and enable the Public Test Channel. There have been a couple of updates to it over the past few days that I am seeing reports of folks over on the Oculus forum that were having issues getting better performance. I am on the PTC and so far not seeing any major performance issue. Thanks for the tip, I tried it, but unfortunately I didn't see any improvement at all :( System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarface03 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 For what it is worth, I am getting micro stutters like crazy now as well. It ran butter smooth for me before Oculus' latest update. I have lowered all my settings and still get micro stutters. It stutters with every ASW setting: ASW auto/forced on/forced off/forced simulated 27hz display The Huey is what I have been testing in using UN pilot mission 8. 2080ti/i79500k/32gb/m2 ssd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 For what it is worth, I am getting micro stutters like crazy now as well. It ran butter smooth for me before Oculus' latest update. I have lowered all my settings and still get micro stutters. It stutters with every ASW setting: ASW auto/forced on/forced off/forced simulated 27hz display The Huey is what I have been testing in using UN pilot mission 8. 2080ti/i79500k/32gb/m2 ssd Hmm.. looking at your system specs, I think we can at least rest assured that this ain't a hardware related issue. Really hope it gets fixed/patched soon, because even though the thread title is a bit exaggerated, it is pretty annoying (especially now we have some extra potential DCS time during the holidays) System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xthedarkknight99x Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 Hmm.. looking at your system specs, I think we can at least rest assured that this ain't a hardware related issue. Really hope it gets fixed/patched soon, because even though the thread title is a bit exaggerated, it is pretty annoying (especially now we have some extra potential DCS time during the holidays) Sorry you feel my title was exaggerated. When I wrote that I was suffering from motion sickness which made it unplayable for me. Feeling like you wanna puke will cut the session short real fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirrah Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Sorry you feel my title was exaggerated. When I wrote that I was suffering from motion sickness which made it unplayable for me. Feeling like you wanna puke will cut the session short real fast. Your thread, your title my friend :santa: System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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