xvii-Dietrich Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 With the announcement of the free Marianas Map (REF), those of us who are interested in WW2 air combat are no doubt thinking about how this map could be used for Pacific Theatre scenarios. There are some US assets: troops and tanks, landing boats and ships. There are some US aircraft too: the P51D, B17, P47D (was it used in the Pacific?), and the upcoming F4U Corsair. But what of the Japanese? There has been a hint of an AM6 Zero ( @ 4m29s). But that's it. Of course development is expensive, so it is not as if ED will suddenly launch into any major development effort on Pacific WW2. But perhaps 1-2 items could be added to the WW2 assets pack, that could be used in the Marianas? If so, what would be the minimum addition needed to the WW2 Assets Pack to let us fly WW2 Pacific?
Silver_Dragon Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) P-47 was on pacific http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_P-47_pacific.html And Mosquito FB was used on Burma http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/battles_mosquito_far_east.html But waiting to ED talk about a pacific expansion to the WW2 Assets pack. Edited January 4, 2020 by Silver_Dragon For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
twistking Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) If so, what would be the minimum addition needed to the WW2 Assets Pack to let us fly WW2 Pacific? I'd say most work would be naval assets, you'd need at least a couple of japanese ships, ideally one being a carrier. For land assets, you'd only need japanese infantry, transport and utility trucks, maybe a tankette. If you'd go truly minimal, japanese forces could just reuse german AAA. Edited January 4, 2020 by twistking My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
msalama Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 (was it used in the Pacific?) It was, although allegedly the earlier razorback which we don't have, at least for the time being. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
msalama Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 maybe a tankette There were a couple, so we'd need those too. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
chris455 Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 P-47D was used in PTO, even some bubbletop versions in Phillipines, IIRC. See 348th Fighter Group. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Remembering Arlie "Jack" Campbell, US Army Air Forces, WWII. Well done dad, rest in peace.
Belly Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Hello, For me, this ww2 pacific theater is not good news. Today the ww2 assets pack is not rich, and spread resources on several theaters means that this assets pack would need more time to be filled. Belly Edited January 5, 2020 by Belly Bf 109 K-4 / Fw 190 A-8 / Spitfire LF Mk. IX / P51-D / Normandy 1944 map + ww2 assets pack
Stratos Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 Marines landing on golf courses, that would be funny to watch. I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
twistking Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 maybe a tankette There were a couple, so we'd need those too. No, we'd not, if you consider that question of what would be needed as a "minimum". More would always be nice, but if you consider that a proper WWII PTO would stretch the asset pack quite far, It's a reasonable question to ask about what the minimum to make it work would be. I don't think that more than one type of armored vehicle would be needed... My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
westr Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 I’m not sure modern terrain objects and buildings, and objects I’ve seen around the air bases in the screenshots would look right in a WW2 scenario. RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV
AG-51_Razor Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 One thing that is sorely needed for both ETO and PTO are some ship models from that period. When Magnitude releases its Corsair and Essex class carrier, it is going to look pretty funky sailing around all by itself, or with modern day DD's and CA's with their weapons on hold. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Silver_Dragon Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) No, we'd not, if you consider that question of what would be needed as a "minimum". More would always be nice, but if you consider that a proper WWII PTO would stretch the asset pack quite far, It's a reasonable question to ask about what the minimum to make it work would be. I don't think that more than one type of armored vehicle would be needed... in fact, the japanese deploy tanks to counter marine landings as peleliu, iwo jima, etc. http://ttnotes.com/japanese-tank.html Type 95 on Guam for example. https://www.pinterest.es/pin/449515606547598639/ The problem has the lack of infantry (need added japanese and marines), towed artillery, mortar and others on WW2 assets packs. Edited January 6, 2020 by Silver_Dragon For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
wasizyayo Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 The I-16 also has a record of fighting AM6 Zero in mainland China.
twistking Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 I’m not sure modern terrain objects and buildings, and objects I’ve seen around the air bases in the screenshots would look right in a WW2 scenario. There has always been rumours about the new map coming in a WWII flavour and ED were not willing to answer any questions about Marianas and WWII, so it is safe to say, that they are at least investigating the possibility. in fact, the japanese deploy tanks to counter marine landings as peleliu, iwo jima, etc. [...] The problem has the lack of infantry (need added japanese and marines), towed artillery, mortar and others on WW2 assets packs. I don't doubt that they used tanks, i'm just questioning if they were really needed in DCS to set up a basic, yet believable PTO scenario. Ships, Infantry and some utility would be more important and from those maybe some units could even be retextured units from Normandy... My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
twistking Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 With WWII Marianas confirmed by Nick Grey, this is getting even more relevant. I'd be very dissapointed, if we wouldn't get a minimal unit set at least. Of course, i'd like to see a full set with whole fleets and many aircraft in the long term, but for release i'd hope for a handful of units at least, to enable simple dogfights and basic ground pounding: One japanese AI aircraft, japanese infantry and utility vehicles, AAA, maybe a destroyer or submarine, a generic cargo ship and some simple retextures of US army to Us marines assets. My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
msalama Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 With WWII Marianas confirmed by Nick Grey Whut? Care to share a link? This is the first I hear of this. The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of.
twistking Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 Whut? Care to share a link? This is the first I hear of this. Some good news I was expecting it. Wags and others vaguely hinted at something like that even before Marianas was officialy announced. My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
Jester986 Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 Christmas came for me January 13th :) I wonder how the assets will work though? Made by mag 3 and included with F-4u? Added to asset back? A new asset pack? Maybe included with the map?
twistking Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 Christmas came for me January 13th :) I wonder how the assets will work though? Made by mag 3 and included with F-4u? Added to asset back? A new asset pack? Maybe included with the map? i think it would be hard to justify another asset pack. but let's not start another wild speculation thread, before we get any solid info from ED. i just hope, we will get something with the map. even if it is just the bare minimun... My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
Jester986 Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 I really don't like the idea of player base splintering asset packs either. I feel like the price should be baked into the cost of a module or map. But a free map makes that difficult... And I'm personally so in love with the idea of a pacific theatre for WWII that I'd throw just about any amount of money at it. Though I know most can't afford to.
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