[2.5.6] Stored Heading Align does not work

[Ashilta]

If I follow the instructions in Wag's YT video, start the jet, set align to 'STOR HDG' and monitor the progress, I reach 1.5/10 and RDY does not start flashing. I have tried both 'entering' the LAT/LON and not and both have the same result. Subsequently, NORM align is the only mode available.

 

Edit: Adding a note to say that I'm not 'changing' the jet during this process. I haven't moved any controls, I haven't added munitions or refuelled.

Edit two: Track file here: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AlT38BKo2JnThNQpUb57w4ZegfzhXw?e=AcBX5J

Edit three: The issue occurs in MP only. SP is fine...

Edited March 8, 2020 by Ashilta

[Deano87]

Have you tried just going to Nav anyway even if RDY isn’t flashing to see if it works?

[Tholozor]

Pretty sure RDY does not flash for a STOR HDG align, only references I could find in the T.O. are that it only flashes during NORM align.

Edited March 9, 2020 by Tholozor

[Santi871]

RDY should flash at 1.5/10. Make sure you're not rearming, and that you wait a few seconds for the electrical system to stabilize after the engine turning on (should be visible as the MFDs running their BIT twice).

 

PS: could you make a track that doesn't rely on extra content?

[HayMak3r]

just stating that I too have noticed this. And it is NOT properly aligned if rdy does not flash. You must start over if this happens. Something changed during alignment. Or you started the alignment too quickly.

[Ashilta]

Right,

 

I've done some further work on this. From what I've found, if you do ANYTHING on the ICP related to the DED then the stored heading align fails. The only way I can seem to make it work is by simply not touching anything whilst the alignment takes place.

 

Here's a track showing the process if you touch nothing: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AlT38BKo2JnThNQ35dZHZ2EGAUl0GA?e=D224A1

Here's a track showing the process if I simply change menus: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AlT38BKo2JnThNQ4eMBj90QkisiJFw?e=B5ZWyY

[fudabidu]

You have to confirm longitude, latitude, altitude and heading on the INS page within 1 or 2 minutes. I'm assuming you missed the altitude and heading so the alignment was degraded.

 

As soon as the INS page comes up during startup do ENTER - down - ENTER - down (...) on the ICP until all 4 have been confirmed. Takes a few seconds and that's it.

 

I then usually leave the INS page to set up my comms and when I come back the alignment finishes as it should.

[mvsgas]

You have to confirm longitude, latitude, altitude and heading on the INS page within 1 or 2 minutes. I'm assuming you missed the altitude and heading so the alignment was degraded.

 

As soon as the INS page comes up during startup do ENTER - down - ENTER - down (...) on the ICP until all 4 have been confirmed. Takes a few seconds and that's it.

 

I then usually leave the INS page to set up my comms and when I come back the alignment finishes as it should.

 

Not sure how this is still confusing people, it has to be the easiest thing to do within DCS. Once everything else is on, you are ready to go except the INS, you simply move the INS knob to STOR HDG, do nothing for 90 seconds. Do not confirm coordinates in Stored alignment.

 

[mvsgas]

Right,

 

I've done some further work on this. From what I've found, if you do ANYTHING on the ICP related to the DED then the stored heading align fails. The only way I can seem to make it work is by simply not touching anything whilst the alignment takes place.

 

Here's a track showing the process if you touch nothing: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AlT38BKo2JnThNQ35dZHZ2EGAUl0GA?e=D224A1

Here's a track showing the process if I simply change menus: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AlT38BKo2JnThNQ4eMBj90QkisiJFw?e=B5ZWyY

 

Looking at you second track, the only thing I can think off is that you are rushing the start. I can tell if you are using key commands. Maybe one of the key is assign to two things. Additionally, MMC should be on for 20 seconds before INS is align. I can not duplicate this problem. I can use the ICP and change radio or program bingo etc, without affecting Stor Hdg Alignment. Can you duplicate it in a Simple mission, just the F-16 in Caucasus map, or is this happening to you on that specific mission?

[Turbo Shartz]

I am experiencing the same issue as OP. I start the jet, await the MFD's and DED to finish BIT tests and then I turn the knob to STOR HDG. I do nothing after that. The way I know it isn't working is because I know for a FACT that I placed my jet with a True heading (THDG) of 270. However, the INS page (List>6) shows my THDG as 0.0 or 359.9 and does NOT update. On top of that, when it reaches 1.5/10, the RDY does NOT flash. I then turn the knob to OFF and then back to STOR HDG and attempt the alignment again. If I see my THDG update, it is always followed up with a flashing RDY once it reaches 1.5/10. However, it sometimes takes 3-4 tries to get it to work. I have only noticed this in MP, haven't tested in SP yet. Trust me, I am doing the correct procedure. I reviewed Wags' video multiple times and I am doing everything he is doing, just not getting the same or similar result. I will also run a repair and see if that works when I get home, because not everyone I am flying with experiences this issue.

 

EDIT: grammar, missing words

[mvsgas]

For those having the problem with INS STOR HDG, Can you create a simple mission in Caucasus, Just the F-16 and try to do STOR HDG, does it work on not?

Here is a mission made in Open Beta version 2.5.6.44266

STOR HDG test.miz

 

If it works, ok. If it does not, please post a track and the details, for example, how are you getting out of the DED INS page?

 

Now, try the same online. Write down the server, your ping to that server, the mission, how many people where there, was there people leaving and joining the server while you where aligning. Same thing, if it works, ok. If it does not, please post a track and the details.

 

If you are using key (meaning commands from the key board or other devices) note this as well. I use the mouse on the cockpit and I do not experience any problems.

 

My guess is either the command used or lag problems online due to high ping or people joining or leaving or object spawning in the server.

[HayMak3r]

whern doing the stored alignment are you hitting enter at all on the list 6 page? You are NOT supposed to do anything there.

[Icebeat]

RDY should flash at 1.5/10. Make sure you're not rearming, and that you wait a few seconds for the electrical system to stabilize after the engine turning on (should be visible as the MFDs running their BIT twice).

 

PS: could you make a track that doesn't rely on extra content?

 

confirmed, you need to wait to rearming/refueling

[Turbo Shartz]

whern doing the stored alignment are you hitting enter at all on the list 6 page? You are NOT supposed to do anything there.

 

No, I press nothing. After 5 attempts the other day, I said "ef it" and punched in my THDG on INS page which oriented my HSD correctly...but I shouldn't have to do this.

[Etirion]

Also make sure you're not rearming while aligning, the movement of the plane when the stores get put on mess up the alignment.

[wrl11]

If you don't get the flashing ALIGN the first time on stored align, put it to NAV then back to stored align. It will always work the 2nd time with a flashing ALIGN.

[wrl11]

I also tested the suggestion above to fully start up the jet, and only after fully started up, to turn it to Stored Align and not to touch ANY keys at all after you switch it to Stored Align. It has worked twice, so I think that is the issue.

[Frederf]

Here's a minimum procedure to check stored heading alignment which should work every time. What you do operationally should just be "extra steps" like using the engine power instead of ground power and the rest of the systems for flight but from the INS's point of view this procedure below is all that happens.

Stored Alignment Minimum Procedure

Quick Start, F-16 Cold and Dark (Caucuses)

 

1. Ground Electric Power | On
   
2. MAIN PWR Switch | MAIN PWR
   
3. MMC Switch | MMC
   
4. UFC Switch | UFC
   
5. INS Knob | STOR HDG
   
6. DED>INS X.X/10 RDY | Wait until RDY flashes
   
7. INS Knob | Set NAV without hesitating (>1s) in NORM
   

[FOXFIRE TWOONE]

Wait until eng run up to idle. Turn on MIDS, GPS, DL, MIC, STSTA, UFC, RAD ALT, FCR, L/R HDPT then switch INS too STOR HDG, do not touch any switches until ins alignment is at 1.5-10 after it is RDY at 60. You will get proper alignment and flashing RDY every time.