Airhunter Posted September 20, 2021 Posted September 20, 2021 24 minutes ago, SgtPappy said: It looks like there's good news on the horizon! See Chizh's reply on implementing the correct APG-63 ranges: So is this in right now since that post is from August?
Harlikwin Posted September 20, 2021 Posted September 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Airhunter said: So is this in right now since that post is from August? Nope, not in the current patch. 1 New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
henshao Posted September 20, 2021 Posted September 20, 2021 Tempering my hope for this 20 year old problem...hopefully they increase detection power to slightly optimistic values but there is always that chance it'll go up 1% and we'll have to wait until 2042 to get more
henshao Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 just to maintain the proper level of frustration around here with another outside source of research...proof so to speak that not only the Su-27 and F-15 have identical radars in game as mentioned previously but also that the F-16 outperforms them both (lol). IDK if the F-15 should be "literally tomcat level" but certainly it should be in that ballpark from here
Harlikwin Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 25 minutes ago, henshao said: just to maintain the proper level of frustration around here with another outside source of research...proof so to speak that not only the Su-27 and F-15 have identical radars in game as mentioned previously but also that the F-16 outperforms them both (lol). IDK if the F-15 should be "literally tomcat level" but certainly it should be in that ballpark from here Yeah yeah we know. The APG-68v5 has since been adjusted. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
henshao Posted September 29, 2021 Posted September 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, Harlikwin said: Yeah yeah we know. yeah yeah we know that you know.
Spurts Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 I would love to see that re-done with just new values for F/A-18 and F-16
Mike_Romeo Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) vor 17 Stunden schrieb henshao: just to maintain the proper level of frustration around here with another outside source of research...proof so to speak that not only the Su-27 and F-15 have identical radars in game as mentioned previously but also that the F-16 outperforms them both (lol). IDK if the F-15 should be "literally tomcat level" but certainly it should be in that ballpark By the way, your chart is outdated and a new one is available. The F-15 radar outperformes the F-16 now vor 46 Minuten schrieb Spurts: I would love to see that re-done with just new values for F/A-18 and F-16 Here you go: Source: Edited September 30, 2021 by Mike_Romeo 1 1 My skins
FoxAlfa Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 No comments on the JF radar range.... weird... ------- All the people keep asking for capabilities to be modelled.... I want the limitations to be modelled.... limitations make for realistic simulation. Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in the mud, after a bit you realize the pig likes it. Long time ago in galaxy far far away: https://www.deviantart.com/alfafox/gallery
Harlikwin Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, FoxAlfa said: No comments on the JF radar range.... weird... Lol, well the JF ranges are kind of a meme. At best they should be about what the 68v5 is. Also the 68v5 shouldn't have the 77mi range, except in one mode which isn't actually modeled in our Viper. Its somehow interleaved with the regular modes which I think is wrong. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
henshao Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Harlikwin said: Also the 68v5 shouldn't have the 77mi range, except in one mode which isn't actually modeled in our Viper. Its somehow interleaved with the regular modes which I think is wrong. the chart has the new and old f-16. as some smart ass responded in this thread a few comments ago, the apg-68 has been adjusted
Harlikwin Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, henshao said: the chart has the new and old f-16. as some smart ass responded in this thread a few comments ago, the apg-68 has been adjusted Sorry, now 45... its not the range thats the issue its the fact its a hprf waveform which shouldn't be interleaved and currently is, its its own radar page which we don't currently have in game AFAIK. Edited September 30, 2021 by Harlikwin New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
KenobiOrder Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 On 9/30/2021 at 3:54 PM, FoxAlfa said: No comments on the JF radar range.... weird... Because that is what the publicly available data says it should be.
henshao Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 Funny how the most optimistic value possible is used for every jet except one, even if it is reigned in later
GGTharos Posted October 2, 2021 Author Posted October 2, 2021 8 hours ago, KenobiOrder said: Because that is what the publicly available data says it should be. What public data? MPRF should be 40% of HPRF range. It's just physics. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
KenobiOrder Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, GGTharos said: MPRF should be 40% of HPRF range. Yes that part is wrong. There is scant information available around for the ranges of these radars, but whats available for the JF-17 is pretty much identical to what they have in game, ignoring whatever PRF does it right now. Edited October 2, 2021 by KenobiOrder
henshao Posted October 2, 2021 Posted October 2, 2021 The Jeff no longer has a medium PRF, it only "appears" to but functions as high PRF hence identical performance
GGTharos Posted October 3, 2021 Author Posted October 3, 2021 Are you saying that the MPRF simulation aspect isn't there? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
henshao Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 3 hours ago, GGTharos said: Are you saying that the MPRF simulation aspect isn't there? Well, Quaggles is saying it, anyway. "MPRF has become identical to HPRF meaning it's lost some low closure rate capability and ILV detection range has been boosted" I didn't see anything on the patch notes for 2.7.5.10869 and I don't have the Geoffrey but I believe the source
Harlikwin Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, henshao said: Well, Quaggles is saying it, anyway. "MPRF has become identical to HPRF meaning it's lost some low closure rate capability and ILV detection range has been boosted" I didn't see anything on the patch notes for 2.7.5.10869 and I don't have the Geoffrey but I believe the source Oh lol... Never mind that 105km number is probably the most optimistic range in VS most likely. Edited October 3, 2021 by Harlikwin New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
nighthawk2174 Posted October 4, 2021 Posted October 4, 2021 10 hours ago, Harlikwin said: Oh lol... Never mind that 105km number is probably the most optimistic range in VS most likely. I don't think so the 105km range on a 5m^2 target would put it in a similar class to the AN/APG-68V9.
Harlikwin Posted October 4, 2021 Posted October 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, nighthawk2174 said: I don't think so the 105km range on a 5m^2 target would put it in a similar class to the AN/APG-68V9. If its only in VS under best circumstances it would. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
nighthawk2174 Posted October 4, 2021 Posted October 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Harlikwin said: If its only in VS under best circumstances it would. Maybe maybe not we don't know for sure, for now the range is fine, minus the MPRF thing.
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