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Hello to everyone, especialy to team which working on Black Shark project!!!

I am one of many Lockon gamers, first simulator i flew was SU-27, the oldest one. Like many people who love Lockon simulator i am waiting for KA-50 and it's really good to know that even now there are many ideas and allready going design of helicopters such AH-64 and planes like A-10 to follow the KA-50.

I have some ideas and questions to everyone... The A-10 is really great plane but... if design team building new models, cockpits, weapons etc. why not to build new jet fighter to next Lockon game, there are many airplanes to suggest but if for a moment to analize the Lockon simulator... what we (gamers) want to see and try in such simulator:

1. fly plane that not was biuld by any one in simulator game (NEW) to everyone

2. Try guided weapons, like laser bombs and tv guided missiles

3. Air combat

4. Speed

5. Dificulty in things like landings, air refueling etc.

 

I want to giscuse SU-34 jet fighter!!!!

1.pilots cockpit and they sit next to each other

2.supersonic speed to heavy bomber like SU-34

3. Manuevereble

4. 2 wheels main gear that makes landings more interesting and dificuilt

5. weapons: air to air missiles, all bombs, guided and free fall, air to ground missiles like kh-31, kh-29 (air to ship) and many tv guided other missiles

6. ground radar to have capability to find ground targets and to guide missiles to them (Ground thacking radar was designed just in one such simulator and it was su-27 old simulator which carried kh-31 and kh-29 missiles)

7. big massive bomber!

 

I think that if the design team can design such airplane to next Lockon, all the gamers will be really happy to fly this really interesting and so powerful fighter - bomber for many air to air, air to ground and air to ship mishions and all this in one plane.

Digital cockpit with capability to guide TV seeker missiles to targets in hundrets kilometers and 2 near seat pilots with one cockpit. I am not really understend how design team building new airplanes but if they can design SU-34 i think it would be something really great to every simulation pilot all over the world, such KA-50 that was never build by anyone.

 

For end i really want to hear opinions from everybody and maybe if there a posibility to build such jet why not to bring us one of the most powerful jet bombers in the world!

 

regards

 

Ruslan

 

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OH NO...another (same) poll :(

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Those are nice pictures! Plane is also awesome, I wish they, (DCS) could get they hands on enough info to bring this babe in to our world, thou doesn't looks like it's going to happen in my lifetime. Nice try thou...

 

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OH NO...another (same) poll :(

 

 

True, same pools always, which plane in next DCS, or Which Western plane in next DCS or Which Socialist plane in next DCS. This is so annoying, people don't make pools about everything, AFAIK there wasn't pool about which trees would you like to see in DCS, Western Europe or maybe Eastern. LOL. Search before make next same pool.:puke:

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at least he put some piccies in the thread......

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That said...

 

...I'd love to strap into a Raptor next.

 

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poll-----no

 

Hi again

i want to tell that my target in bringing up this subject again is not to do poll which i sudensy saw and make on.

The main reason is to try explain to design crew that there are some posibilities in SU-34 and if there is some 0.001% that they will take this plane like posibility then i won and all this not for nothing.

Try to think from where sudenly came idea to design ka-50, it is idea of some one, and you know what to tell let's design again A-10 easy than try to explain why to build something more dificult!

And in other hand who read well what i wrote can see that are some good questions like why Lockon team not designed TV seeking misiles, guided bombs like GBU-10, ground skaning radars on jets, and all this that player will control.

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Hi again

i want to tell that my target in bringing up this subject again is not to do poll which i sudensy saw and make on.

The main reason is to try explain to design crew that there are some posibilities in SU-34 and if there is some 0.001% that they will take this plane like posibility then i won and all this not for nothing.

Try to think from where sudenly came idea to design ka-50, it is idea of some one, and you know what to tell let's design again A-10 easy than try to explain why to build something more dificult!

And in other hand who read well what i wrote can see that are some good questions like why Lockon team not designed TV seeking misiles, guided bombs like GBU-10, ground skaning radars on jets, and all this that player will control.

 

 

I can't speak for ED's future intentions, but I doubt the Su34 will make an entrance as a modelled aircraft.

 

It does share the limited-production prototype status with the Ka50, but that's about all.

 

 

The Ka50 was partly chosen thanks to what I'm told was a very popular movie in Russia involving the Ka50. Think of it as an equivalent to someone making a Tomcat sim after Top Gun, perhaps . . .

 

ED also got a spectacular level of cooperation from Kamov on this aircraft. And that's a real key piece of the puzzle . . . you need to know everything about the aircraft to be able to model it at this level of detail.

 

ED have a lot of information on the A-10 from a US government contract to produce desktop A-10 sims for training ANG pilots, and they've managed to obtain Apache-A documentation as well.

 

Getting documentation on the Su-34 could prove MUCH more difficult. It's a prototype, so it may not even have formalised documentation.

 

It's not a random decision, there's a lot of background that goes into stuff like this ;)

 

 

As for why what is and isn't modelled . . . well you do the work to support the aircraft you're modelling. If an aircraft is introduced to the DCS series that uses A2G radar, well you'll probably see ED work on the radar model at that point.

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At MAKS-2007, ED presented LO and Black Shark at the Sukhoi stand. :)

So, thats a good thing ? It must be !:D

naah, i don't belive in it

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The poll is lousy, it's obvious that the NO's are driven by their own desire to get some other plane modeled instead of Su-34, I bet it's some F22 "Raptor" or some other "No chance to get it done" plane, cos no one will ever get their hands on information amount needed to even start to consider the possibility of modeling this or other US or RUS "high tech" birdy. So, could You please drop that "I want" attitude and "turn ON" the common sense before hitting the NO button. There is no point of dreaming about some new "high tech" birds, don't get me wrong. we all want them, but lets be realistic...

 

P.S. and shouldn't this thread be at the LO part of the forums :P ?

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me... no

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I know where you live... :smilewink:

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And your point is?

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I think that you probably right about that SU-34 nearly new and it is really hard to get information about it but for air to groun radar and missiles like x-29 and x-31a, the ainti ship missile in old version of "SU-27 squadron comanders edition" there was air to ground scaning radar and even those old SU-27 could carie guided TV bombs and misiles AND MODERN LOCKON just A-10 can carry AGM-65 and su-33 can carry x-41 moskite anti ship missile which loching on target himself because there are no air to ground radar on su-33. Again i understand the problem with information but if the old SU-27 has it why not to build it on modern. Becaouse i flue the old one i know how interesting to use TV guided weapons and TV guided bombs.

Back to not many information about jets. Let's ask why the design team not modeling F-15E this jet are modeled in meny simulators and it"s air to air prototype modeled in lockon, why not? there are simulators like Janes F-15 and other whick modeled it really realisticly.

One more thing about guided bombs l;ike GBU-10 in Falcon F-16 simulator this weapons used really good and FLIR pod of F-16 modeled really realistic so they coud ged the info and it's not ALL classified.

Posted
True, same pools always, which plane in next DCS, or Which Western plane in next DCS or Which Socialist plane in next DCS. This is so annoying, people don't make pools about everything, AFAIK there wasn't pool about which trees would you like to see in DCS, Western Europe or maybe Eastern. LOL. Search before make next same pool.:puke:

 

If You look carefully You might notice the the poll states:

"You want to see SU-34 in next lockon ?"

and has nothing to do with DCS. :megalol:

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I'd rather see an F-15E ... and on the Russian side, a Su-30MKx :)

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I'd rather see an F-15E ... and on the Russian side, a Su-30MKx :)

 

Oh You ;), I can't believe you voted no for small kitchen and the toilet, Traitor! :D

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