Ourorborus Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 I currently use a Lenovo Explorer which despite its shortcomings I find a great match for my GTX1060. My upgrade path is to get a higher end card toward the end of 2020 once the dust has settled from the Nvidia/AMD releases. following that I will probably look to upgrade my HMD next year. HMDs are very expensive in the antipodes so I don't have a lot of cash to try the various options. However I have, in theory come up with a concept to get an idea of the FPS I would achieve with a different HMD before purchase. When you adjust the steam VR PD/SS slider, it displays the effective resolution as well as the percentage. So if I set 100% I should get the 2x1440x1440 of my current HMD (or 4,127,400 pixels). If I set Steam SS to 1930x1930 then my pc would be processing 7449,800 pixels before downscaling to the HMD. If I ran this with my current HMD, would the FPS be roughly what I could expect from PIMAX 5k which has 7372,800 pixels? If it does I could make similar adjustments to test FPS on a range of HMD potentials without purchasing.
speed-of-heat Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) Yes, ish, I did something similar when moving to the reverb from my oddy+ ... my experience was I got slightly better perf than I was expecting. I would say if you are cash strapped then be aware that you will require lighthouses and controllers ( the latter only if you want to use it for something other than dcs) if you use the pimax... which will drive the price up further. Also from a point of view of clarity you need to consider pixels per inch ... whilst the pimax 5k has a lot pixels they are quite spread out in. Part because of the extra fov. Also just to be sure pd and ss in steam are different.., https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=235200&d=1588907676 is a simple excel sheet to do the calc Edited August 28, 2020 by speed-of-heat SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
VitS Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 I currently use a Lenovo Explorer which despite its shortcomings I find a great match for my GTX1060. My upgrade path is to get a higher end card toward the end of 2020 once the dust has settled from the Nvidia/AMD releases. following that I will probably look to upgrade my HMD next year. HMDs are very expensive in the antipodes so I don't have a lot of cash to try the various options. However I have, in theory come up with a concept to get an idea of the FPS I would achieve with a different HMD before purchase. When you adjust the steam VR PD/SS slider, it displays the effective resolution as well as the percentage. So if I set 100% I should get the 2x1440x1440 of my current HMD (or 4,127,400 pixels). If I set Steam SS to 1930x1930 then my pc would be processing 7449,800 pixels before downscaling to the HMD. If I ran this with my current HMD, would the FPS be roughly what I could expect from PIMAX 5k which has 7372,800 pixels? If it does I could make similar adjustments to test FPS on a range of HMD potentials without purchasing. You are right but it still very rough estimation. Because PIMAX and Lenovo are actually using different APIs in the end. So it really depends on how good WMR driver for SteamVR is compared to PIMAX driver.
Ourorborus Posted August 28, 2020 Author Posted August 28, 2020 Thanks for the confirmation. I only used pimax as an example although it is high on my list as fov is important to me. Who knows what will be available when it comes time or how powerful the new gpus will be Sent from my F8331 using Tapatalk
wormeaten Posted August 29, 2020 Posted August 29, 2020 Best buy option is Reverb G2. Best clarity of all VR and one of the lowest priced, 600$. Have in mind that 3070 will be card around 5% lower performance than 2080Ti but for affordable 600$ too. If you wait AMD as well maybe situation could be even better. Who knows? For some preview just check what performances got people who using Reverb 2080Ti combo right now to get picture what you can expect and for what price with such combination G2 and 3070.
wormeaten Posted August 29, 2020 Posted August 29, 2020 Also PD is not that important. Most important is PPD, Pixel Per Degree. In PPD G2 is without the competition and clarity overwhelm all this FOV advantage Pimax or Index have over G2 in complete picture. VR is combination of multiple stuff and best one is those who made best combination which effecting on general VR impression and G2 is for using in simulations have best combination.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted August 29, 2020 ED Team Posted August 29, 2020 My advice is to start with PD 1 in game, and use your native resolution for your headset. Then adjust to find the balance for performance and looks. Thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Motomouse Posted August 29, 2020 Posted August 29, 2020 You can not simulate the performance of different HMD by adjusting PD very well. (Experience with my Rift and my HP Reverb.) VIC-20@1.108 MHz, onboard GPU, 5KB RAM, μυωπία goggles, Competition Pro HOTAS
dburne Posted August 29, 2020 Posted August 29, 2020 You can not simulate the performance of different HMD by adjusting PD very well. (Experience with my Rift and my HP Reverb.) Yeah I think native resolution will always perform better versus the same resolution achieved via SS or PD. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
wormeaten Posted August 29, 2020 Posted August 29, 2020 Also PD is not that important. Most important is PPD, Pixel Per Degree. In PPD G2 is without the competition and clarity overwhelm all this FOV advantage Pimax or Index have over G2 in complete picture. VR is combination of multiple stuff and best one is those who made best combination which effecting on general VR impression and G2 is for using in simulations have best combination. Sorry Guys I mix PD with native resolution. My correction.
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