[REPORTED] Aiming sight getting stuck randomly with stabilizer enabled.

[dimitriov]

Hi :)

 

I made you a lil video to really try to illustrate the issue :

 

 

Basically, DCS 2.5.6.57264 Open Beta 2020-11-04 (but happens for several months now, dev team "fixed" stab some months ago because it got shaky when on the move, it happens since. I thought it was a mod issue on my side but with a brand new clean install without mods, it too happens with Abrams and any other stab vehicle).

 

So the problem :

 

Sometimes, randomly, when stab is enabled (V key), aiming gets stucked. The only way is to disable stab or to wait sometimes up to 10 seconds to get it back.

 

To reproduce it, the best for you is to get in the same situation than on my vid : Gudauta airport, one abrams. Get max zoom / Aim with stab enabled a bit above trees / hold for few seconds (5 to 10) / then try to move.

 

Again, it happens randomly, usually, after globally one minute trying to reproduce, you end having it. Be patient testing it please, it happens on two different computers on my side. If you notice even a non responsive behavior for half a second, then it's this. No binding conflict of course I checked.

 

It happens quite often, in miz, it has become a real problem as it obviously always happens when you're in fight......

 

Ok, I hope it can be solved, again, this one is a critic one.

 

Thanks in advance lads ;)

 

Nicolas

 

 

 

[NineLine]

I am not seeing the issue you describe, obviously, you should turn off the stabilization before making any major movements of the turret, but all testing I did hitting the V key immediately turned it off. I do think maybe we need an indication that it's on.

[Shadow KT]

The issues I've seen is that if you aim down, it seems like you can continue aiming below the point the gun can aim... meaning if you have to aim up, you have to pull more, as to get out of that deadzone you got below the gun

[dimitriov]

I am not seeing the issue you describe, obviously, you should turn off the stabilization before making any major movements of the turret, but all testing I did hitting the V key immediately turned it off. I do think maybe we need an indication that it's on.

 

Hi, you don't seem to have understood the issue.

 

Having the stab enabled, so V key has been pressed once, the aiming simply randomly stucks for few seconds. Problem is that it can happen anytime even when you need to move just a tiny bit the turret, which leads to the issue.

 

Try to send a telemetry signal, max range (5000m by default) to the sky or to trees. Wait 1 sec after telemetry, then move, repeat and repeat and after I think 10 times you'll have experimented it at least once, even if it looks like some kind a very brief lag, it's this issue. Problem is that is can last for half a second as well as sometimes more than 10.

 

It looks like there's some kind of link between telemtry and stab itself, leading them to glitch each other. (Forgot to talk about telemtry in first post sorry, for me this part is simply natural...)

 

Nicolas

[Shadow KT]

@NineLine Here is a track showing the issues and a video for context (track and video are the same test):

 

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Gunner Sight stuck with Stabilizer.trk

Gunner Sight stuck with Stabilizer.trk

[NineLine]

Good video, I will take another look now that I see what you guys mean, thanks!

 

And actually, to add, this is similar to issues I have with CA control in general, that it doesn't always limit to the gun movements, so I do see these issues elsewhere as well. I will do up a big report on this about improving them for sure.

Edited November 23, 2020 by NineLine

[NineLine]

Reported, thanks guys!

[dimitriov]

As always, thank you a lot for your involvement nineline ;)

 

Nicolas

[Shadow KT]

I can talk and explain Combined Arms issues/bugs for hours, holla if you need me :music_whistling:

[dimitriov]

Hi, 

 

Issue is still there as of last open beta ;) 

 

Nicolas

[Shadow KT]

Reposting the video, as the link got broken on the new forum
 

 

[Apocalypse31]

Have had this same problem - mostly in the Challenger 2 but cannot replicate it. 

[Northstar98]

I can reproduce with the Challenger II, if you continue trying to elevate the gun past its physical limits (either high or low) it'll stay there until you 'undo it' so to speak.

 

It's a bit of a pain when using a joystick, as you need to anticipate when to stop pulling the stick back so as to stop it sticking.

Edited January 5, 2021 by Northstar98

[Shadow KT]

You can do reproduce with anything that has a stabilizer 

[NineLine]

Yeah I think its simple the stabilizer trying to stabilizer your movements, I am sure they just need to make it so it doesn't restrict the movements of the gun in regards to the gunner moving it.

[Apocalypse31]

@NineLineThis is still very much a problem.