Nahemoth Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 Hi, I'm a bit confused with the VR shaders mods, I see these two: Kegetys and Clear water. I have downloaded both for 2.7.7 and I see minor differences... I guess clear water is an enhancement of the first one, and both have nearly the same performance, but I'm nor really sure... any thoughts? Thanks!
speed-of-heat Posted December 7, 2021 Author Posted December 7, 2021 Kegetys is the most performant, CW basically has some reductions in performance to enable the water to be transparent. SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Nahemoth Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 hace 16 minutos, speed-of-heat dijo: Kegetys is the most performant, CW basically has some reductions in performance to enable the water to be transparent. Thank you for the clarification!
Nahemoth Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 Hi Again, I'm trying Kegetys mod, replacing Clear water mod (which works fine for me), and I get a strange effect at night (or nearly night) in the cabin, very bright or something like that. Also in the main hangar. Does this mod need a specific installation? I also use FSR 2.0. Thanks!
ShaunX Posted December 9, 2021 Posted December 9, 2021 Just an observation here.. I recently started venturing into multiplayer (only just enabled by a new FTTP connection replacing my old 4G dish (the "rural solution")) so I've moved from the CW to the IC pass version, and it's working perfectly, thank you very much. Perhaps there's a tiny performance drop, but what I've noticed as a big plus is that the shader rebuild time, following a DCS update or repair, is just a fraction of the time taken (for each module/theatre) when using the CW version. I think it's because it only generates 1 or 2 files in Metashaders2, rather than 10's of them. Anyway, for me this makes it worth sticking with the IC version even if I'm only planning to run single player. RYZEN 5900X | 32GB | ASUS Strix RTX3090 | 500GB NVMe OS 1000GB NVMe DCS | Warthog HOTAS | HP Reverb G2 | VA & ViacomPRO My DCS Apps: Radio KAOS for DCS KB Quick - Quick and Easy Kneeboards
speed-of-heat Posted December 9, 2021 Author Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) On 12/7/2021 at 3:03 PM, Nahemoth said: Hi Again, I'm trying Kegetys mod, replacing Clear water mod (which works fine for me), and I get a strange effect at night (or nearly night) in the cabin, very bright or something like that. Also in the main hangar. Does this mod need a specific installation? I also use FSR 2.0. Thanks! this comes up quite frequently; you just need to run the mission without the shaders and then run it with the shaders and it works 48 minutes ago, ShaunX said: Just an observation here.. I recently started venturing into multiplayer (only just enabled by a new FTTP connection replacing my old 4G dish (the "rural solution")) so I've moved from the CW to the IC pass version, and it's working perfectly, thank you very much. Perhaps there's a tiny performance drop, but what I've noticed as a big plus is that the shader rebuild time, following a DCS update or repair, is just a fraction of the time taken (for each module/theatre) when using the CW version. I think it's because it only generates 1 or 2 files in Metashaders2, rather than 10's of them. Anyway, for me this makes it worth sticking with the IC version even if I'm only planning to run single player. the perf difference on the latest beta is very much reduced, as many of the shaders are now in an encrypted folder ... Edited December 9, 2021 by speed-of-heat SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Nahemoth Posted December 9, 2021 Posted December 9, 2021 hace 11 horas, speed-of-heat dijo: this comes up quite frequently; you just need to run the mission without the shaders and then run it with the shaders and it works Does this procedure be done always for ensuring "good" image quality? After reinstalling CW mod, I noticed that the image is more blurrier than before...
speed-of-heat Posted December 9, 2021 Author Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) No, only if you get the bizarre night effect. I haven’t seen any degradation in image quality per say. I assume you have used a mod manager to install the mod and deinstall etc… otherwise you will need to run a repair of dcs. Edited December 9, 2021 by speed-of-heat SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Nahemoth Posted December 10, 2021 Posted December 10, 2021 hace 9 horas, speed-of-heat dijo: No, only if you get the bizarre night effect. I haven’t seen any degradation in image quality per say. I assume you have used a mod manager to install the mod and deinstall etc… otherwise you will need to run a repair of dcs. Yes, I use a mod manager, and just to be sure I reinstalled everything from the scratch. Maybe it is just my perception, but I will do more tests during the weekend.
cloudkake Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 damn looks like its broken again i guess this cat and mouse thing is going to be the new normal now? GTX 1080Ti, i7 8700@4.4Ghz, 16Gb DDR4.
ShaunX Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, cloudkake said: damn looks like its broken again i guess this cat and mouse thing is going to be the new normal now? I'm running Clear Water with IC pass on the new build today with no issue Haven't tried Clear Water without IC pass. Maybe something still in that version broke it though seems unlikely. I actually find the IC pass version pretty much as performant as that version these days, and there's no shader rebuild time with it after an update. RYZEN 5900X | 32GB | ASUS Strix RTX3090 | 500GB NVMe OS 1000GB NVMe DCS | Warthog HOTAS | HP Reverb G2 | VA & ViacomPRO My DCS Apps: Radio KAOS for DCS KB Quick - Quick and Easy Kneeboards
speed-of-heat Posted December 23, 2021 Author Posted December 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, cloudkake said: damn looks like its broken again i guess this cat and mouse thing is going to be the new normal now? it always was, but its still working ? did you remember to reinstall ? SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
cloudkake Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 ok just checked, IC pass is working fine. Non IC is throwing errors for me. Yes did the reinstall. GTX 1080Ti, i7 8700@4.4Ghz, 16Gb DDR4.
speed-of-heat Posted December 23, 2021 Author Posted December 23, 2021 yep getting the same. go with IC for now. @cloudkakedoh i was running the 2.7.6 version of the shaders which broke hard, the 2.7.7 version seems to work ok 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
cloudkake Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said: yep getting the same. go with IC for now. @cloudkakedoh i was running the 2.7.6 version of the shaders which broke hard, the 2.7.7 version seems to work ok Well at least i didnt do exactly the same thing... And what i mean by that is.. I did exactly the same thing.. Thanks (and sorry!) GTX 1080Ti, i7 8700@4.4Ghz, 16Gb DDR4.
speed-of-heat Posted December 23, 2021 Author Posted December 23, 2021 lol .. no worries, glad you are working OK ... and apparently its easy to do Have a great Christmas and New Year! 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
cloudkake Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, speed-of-heat said: lol .. no worries, glad you are working OK ... and apparently its easy to do Have a great Christmas and New Year! You too buddy! Thanks for all your work and help as ever 1 GTX 1080Ti, i7 8700@4.4Ghz, 16Gb DDR4.
navik Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 I just reinstalled the IC version (after the update) and now DCS keeps crashing on start. Removed the IC version and revert back to the original shaders, DCS load fine.
ShaunX Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, navik said: I just reinstalled the IC version (after the update) and now DCS keeps crashing on start. Removed the IC version and revert back to the original shaders, DCS load fine. Have you tried clearing out fxo and metashaders2 and running a full DCS repair, then install IC pass ? Sure you have the 2.7.7 version of IC pass not the 2.7 version ? RYZEN 5900X | 32GB | ASUS Strix RTX3090 | 500GB NVMe OS 1000GB NVMe DCS | Warthog HOTAS | HP Reverb G2 | VA & ViacomPRO My DCS Apps: Radio KAOS for DCS KB Quick - Quick and Easy Kneeboards
navik Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 Weirdly enough, the DCS repair fixed it. Thanks.
speed-of-heat Posted December 29, 2021 Author Posted December 29, 2021 OP updated, these are no longer maintained 1 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
ShaunX Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 40 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said: OP updated, these are no longer maintained It seems that Simplex is also no longer maintained judging by the last comment from the developer in User files.. RYZEN 5900X | 32GB | ASUS Strix RTX3090 | 500GB NVMe OS 1000GB NVMe DCS | Warthog HOTAS | HP Reverb G2 | VA & ViacomPRO My DCS Apps: Radio KAOS for DCS KB Quick - Quick and Easy Kneeboards
speed-of-heat Posted December 29, 2021 Author Posted December 29, 2021 yes but they still work i and i think tbh the authors issues should have been resolved with 2.7.9 if they stop working i will re-assess SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
ShaunX Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said: yes but they still work i and i think tbh the authors issues should have been resolved with 2.7.9 if they stop working i will re-assess Hopefully so. I've just posted in his user files thread suggesting he try 2.7.9 1 RYZEN 5900X | 32GB | ASUS Strix RTX3090 | 500GB NVMe OS 1000GB NVMe DCS | Warthog HOTAS | HP Reverb G2 | VA & ViacomPRO My DCS Apps: Radio KAOS for DCS KB Quick - Quick and Easy Kneeboards
tomeye Posted December 29, 2021 Posted December 29, 2021 @speed-of-heat in the OP you mention "2.7.7 (Updated)_", is this for 2.7.9?
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