X52 Saitek/Logitech

[Vuilen]

Hi All,

 

After some diggings here and there apparently it's an ongoing problem with DCS and Saitek/Logitech. I found some post back to 2013. Perhaps it's me, hence seeking a bit of help from the veterans here .

 

I have a Logitech x52. Just to cut the chase the controller working PERFECTLY in other games such as Elite, Arma 3, Flight Sim and Star Citizen.

Also, it's not a config issue or at least as far as I can troubleshoot. No other controller are assigned to the command.

Finally before starting the issues arrived recently... when I've started first the game no problem and obviously something happened since..

 

Alright so
 

Issue 1 :

 

The Pinkie or Joy 6 not detected. The only way to make it work is to go to windows settings, search for joystick, open the game controllers the the option properties and if you leave the windows open DCS accept for some reason the Pinkie or Joy 6 input. I found this solution on the forum suggested by @amigastar (thank you) .

 

Issue 2 :

 

The rudder is somehow stuck on one position. In my case left. 

As you can see on the pic (rudder 0)

 

 

bellow the rudder is assigned to the correct Axis and no input are detected (no small filled white bars).

Once I'm selecting "Axis Tune" (Picture Rudder 1)

 

 

and if I don't move the rudder the initial position is accurate. If I move it just once (in my case on the right) the axis goes crazy and stuck in the left position (Picture Rudder 2).

 

 

I can move around, but I don't have any "normal" or middle ground. It's full on ( I let you imagine what kind of issue you have in game).

 

If I press OK you can now see the white bar on the rudder line indicating the game is detecting an input (picture Rudder 3) even if I don't move the Stick.

 

I don’t have to go in axis to create the issue I can just move my rudder once and the problem is here.

 

I’ve tried the following with the same results:

-          Reset profiles & load my saved one.

-          Load a new profile for the X52 (found on the forum)

-          Clear category and reassign

-          Restart computer

-          Restart Game

-          Change USB port

-          Install X52 driver

-          Delete the profile in Saved Games\DCS\Config\Input\FA-18C_hornet\joystick

 

The only “solution” I found is to delete the game and the config files in Saved folders and reinstall (worked once...). It seems to work for a while but at some stage (that’s what I have trouble to understand) the issue, with the rudder, appears again. The “Pinkie” or Joy 6 issue (as mentioned above) I can deal with that but this one…

 

Can someone please help me ?

 

Edited February 7, 2021 by Vuilen

[admiki]

This looks like calibration issue. What does Windows calibration window show?

[Vuilen]

Admiki. You are right ! I wasn't able to "calibrate" the stick via Settings=>Set up USB Game controllers as the option of calibrating is not there as you can see on my pic (not sure why)

 

 

but was able to do it by launching joy.cpl located in windows\SysWOW64 and now it's working.

 

Pic with calibration option through joy.cpl

 

 

I don't know why it has an impact on DCS though as it doesn't need any calibration for other games but doesn't matter. Still have the issue number 1.

Overall I can make the game working it's just disappointing.

 

Thank you

 

 

Edited February 8, 2021 by Vuilen

[Sacarino111]

Hi.

 I have the X52PRO, not the same but very simlar. The pinky problem looks like  you have a profile loaded where the pinky buttons works as mofifier, set up int he SAitek/Logitek profile editor. Clera any profile, be sure you have no one loaded and the pinky should appear as button 6. At least that is what happens in my case.

Sañudos.

Saca111

[Vuilen]

@Sacarino111 Yes, the "pinkie" is a modifier. At least it's how I use it. Initially I found a profile on the forum and then tweaked it a bit. How would you suggest to use the pinkie then ?

I've attached my mapping.

 

That being said wherever it's modifier or not I shouldn't have to go to windows settings, search for joystick, open the game controllers then the option properties and leave it open so the game can consider it? 

[Sacarino111]

Hi.

Don t take my words for absolute truth, but I think that when you open the joy windows config/test, the profile is overriden and the Pinkie will appear a a normal button, so you can check if it is working or not. The trick, IMO, is to change the profile so the pinky is not set as a modifier. To do so, open the Logitek/Saitek profiler ("X52 Professional H.O.T.A.S." icon on desktop), create a new profile so you can do testings without scewing up things, and at the top tof the configuraction screen, click on "view", so you can have all the assignements at once, and at the top of the 4th, 5th and 6th column you should see something like "mode1+Pinkie", "mode 2+Pinkie" and "mode 3+Pinkie", with a cross to the right of the tab. click on that cross to delete that modifier (you will be prompted to afirm your move, click on yes). After that, your joy will have a "button 6", but you will not be able to use it as "an out of DCS" modifier. I mean, all the fonctions you have doubled for a button with that Pinkie pressed will no longer be available. It is up to you to decide if it is worth it or not. For me, personally, I keep it as a "Saitek modifier", so I can have more assignements for  each button, but if you want this one to be recognized by DCS, this is the way...

I hope I could make myself clear, and help you.

Saludos.

Saca111

Edited February 10, 2021 by Sacarino111

[blaster182]

Just my two cents, if you can live without three button profiles and two button layers are enough.

 

1) Uninstall the Saitek profiler

 

2) In Windows device properties untick the "clutch" function under the right tab. 

 

3) Set one button (for example pinkie or clutch) as modifier in the DCS control settings. 

 

I have the clutch button set as modifier, straight in DCS without extra profiler software. Two functions per button are sufficient for most planes in DCS and personally, I can't remember more HOTAS functions. 

[Tom Kazansky]

There might not be too much help in my post but a little hope. I had the old X52  from Saitek and now got 2 of the new X52 from Logitech with 2 different PC rigs and 2 different OS's working with DCS without any issues. Have the pinky (btn6) as a modifier on all configs. Using the Saitek profiler where Pinky has standard binding. One X52 does have a profile set the other does not.

 

Hope you get your issue solved.

[Sacarino111]

On 2/10/2021 at 1:20 PM, blaster182 said:

Just my two cents, if you can live without three button profiles and two button layers are enough.

 

1) Uninstall the Saitek profiler

 

2) In Windows device properties untick the "clutch" function under the right tab. 

 

3) Set one button (for example pinkie or clutch) as modifier in the DCS control settings. 

 

I have the clutch button set as modifier, straight in DCS without extra profiler software. Two functions per button are sufficient for most planes in DCS and personally, I can't remember more HOTAS functions. 

HI.

Good one! This could also be a lot of help, but he still needs do "unmodify" Pinki from the Profiler. And if he unistalls the profiler, he will loose the profiles for other modules.

Saludos.

Saca111