Focha Posted February 28, 2021 Posted February 28, 2021 Hi all, One of those post requiring help in determining a new hardware setup. For some years now I've been running on a MSFS 2, Saitek X52 throttle and Saitek pedals. Now the Saitek throttle just died after 15 years of good service. For some reason the PC does not initialize the unit. I am just wondering what you guys recommend for a good throttle and what should I get for a good joystick? I noticed that there are a few more brands lately but I am an old guy and don't follow much of that lately, can you guys help me please? Kind regards, ASUS N552VX | i7-6700HQ @ 2.59GHz | 16 GB DDR3 | NVIDIA GF GTX 950M 4 Gb | 250 Gb SSD | 1 Tb HD SATA II Backup | TIR4 | Microsoft S. FF 2+X52 Throttle+Saitek Pedals | Win 10 64 bits
dburne Posted February 28, 2021 Posted February 28, 2021 Virpil CM3 Throttle is very nice. Might be a bit of a wait to get one, but worth it. As far as stick, both Virpil and VKB have some good offerings. I use VKB Gunfighter Pro with extension center mounted to my desk with a Monster Tech Mount, and the VKB Ultimate metal grip with it. Love this combination. With VKB also might be in for a bit of a wait. Both Virpil and VKB make excellent sticks, with metal gimbals in both. Will last a very long time. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
rapid Posted February 28, 2021 Posted February 28, 2021 I had a saitek x52 Pro and Saitek Pro Flight Rudders and replaced them with the WartHog Throttle and Stick and TPR Rudders. Very happy with the set up. Rapid Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
rob10 Posted March 1, 2021 Posted March 1, 2021 I moved from CH fighter stick/Pro Throttle combo to a TM Warthog HOTAS. It's pretty good, but at this point I have a TM F-18 stick on a Virpil WardBRD base and it's a whole lot better. I would definitely go that way if I had to replace my setup (note that when I bought my Warthog, it came as a grip + base set and the F18 grip didn't exist). I find the throttle fine for my purposes. What planes do you fly as that definitely could influence what you want? I mainly fly the F18 with a little bit of A10 and WW2 planes, so my 20+ year old CH pedals still do the job since really they only get used for steering on the ground. If you're heavy on the WW2 planes then better pedals would be nice. I also don't mind less buttons since I have two programmable button boxes (120 buttons each) that I can change out labels on for different aircraft, so I don't feel the need for extra HOTAS buttons (which would make an argument for a Virpil or other grip). Unfortunately, right now it may come down to what you can actually find to purchase at a price less than giving up your first born and you're likely going to have to wait a while for delivery at that.
Focha Posted March 2, 2021 Author Posted March 2, 2021 So basically there are the Thrustmaster and Virpil?I’ve research a bit and it looks like that Virpil can attach some joysticks.What is the advantages or Virpil over Thrustmaster?And is Virpil easy to maintain and repair?They are quite expensive. Thank you for your help. ASUS N552VX | i7-6700HQ @ 2.59GHz | 16 GB DDR3 | NVIDIA GF GTX 950M 4 Gb | 250 Gb SSD | 1 Tb HD SATA II Backup | TIR4 | Microsoft S. FF 2+X52 Throttle+Saitek Pedals | Win 10 64 bits
Lt_Jaeger Posted March 2, 2021 Posted March 2, 2021 I can't talk about virpil, but I replaced my TM Warthog stick with a VKB and being happy now. Did a lot of moding on the TM but never achieved the results I get with the VKB Base. Currently I fly the F-14 almost exclusively and the VKB F-14 Grip is very nice. Got a couple of other grips but only change if I plan to fly other planes for a longer period. There are also sets for fitting TM grips, but that is not as easy as with the virpil base I believe.
Munkwolf Posted March 2, 2021 Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 1:57 PM, dburne said: With VKB also might be in for a bit of a wait. fwiw, i ordered F-14 GFIII, 200m extension, and MCG grip on 2/23, and got them yesterday.
dburne Posted March 2, 2021 Posted March 2, 2021 47 minutes ago, Monkwolf said: fwiw, i ordered F-14 GFIII, 200m extension, and MCG grip on 2/23, and got them yesterday. Congrats! Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
admiki Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 @Monkwolf @dburnehow do you feel about offset angles? Is 15°enough? I plan to get myself MCGU with 200 mm extension, so offseting extension is not really an option.
dburne Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, admiki said: @Monkwolf @dburnehow do you feel about offset angles? Is 15°enough? I plan to get myself MCGU with 200 mm extension, so offseting extension is not really an option. Whilst I can not state exactly it appears like I have mine twisted around 10- 15 degrees or so. Seems comfy and works for me. I use 200mm extension. Edited March 3, 2021 by dburne Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Munkwolf Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 6 hours ago, admiki said: @Monkwolf @dburnehow do you feel about offset angles? Is 15°enough? I plan to get myself MCGU with 200 mm extension, so offseting extension is not really an option. i think it's enough, but i'm not really uising it. Not sure about the U, but the MCG Pro I have has two spots for a pin to set it at 0 or 15. I have mine mounted on the 0 pin. Then the 200mm extension has an arc the pin can sit in that looks like 0 - 15ish. Seems like you could do the 15 pin on the grip and rotate the extension to get more than 15 if you wanted, but the extension would be rotated a bit with the curve.
admiki Posted March 3, 2021 Posted March 3, 2021 3 hours ago, dburne said: Whilst I can not state exactly it appears like I have mine twisted around 10- 15 degrees or so. Seems comfy and works for me. I use 200mm extension. Thanks. The reason I don't want to twist the extension is because it would change grip position due to offset.
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