Unreal roll rate with aileron limiter OFF

[DmitriKozlowsky]

I keep forgetting just how fast F-5E rolls with aileron limiter OFF. Its unreal fast. Like A-4E-C if you keep rolling, you go into GLOC and spin into ground. Neither Viper nor Hornet, empty Harrier, or empty Mirage2KC rolls that crazy.

[razo+r]

You got any documents saying it is not like this? 

 

It is not the only Airplane that rolls fast. 

 

Mirage (without limiter), MiG-21 and the A-4 roll fast too. 

[DmitriKozlowsky]

I didn't it was unrealistic. Likely it is. Its just so quick, that it does not seem real. In a good way.

[Machalot]

7 hours ago, DmitriKozlowsky said:

I didn't it was unrealistic. Likely it is. Its just so quick, that it does not seem real. In a good way.

Ha, unreal, but not unrealistic.  Subtle!

[bbrz]

9 hours ago, DmitriKozlowsky said:

 if you keep rolling, you go into GLOC and spin into ground. 

Not only due to GLOC, also due to aerodynamic reasons e.g. consecutive aileron rolls are a no-go on many combat aircraft, e.g. the F-15.

Edited June 7, 2021 by bbrz

[Bob1943]

I flew the T-38 in pilot training in 1967-68.  It had a very fast roll rate.

[Dragon1-1]

Well, if it didn't, it wouldn't have a limiter, wouldn't it?  It's a nimble fighter, so handle with care, it doesn't have FBW and will not stop you from getting into trouble.