WelshZeCorgi Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Has anyone else been blown up by their own bombs just after hitting the release button? They seem to either be colliding with each other or the airframe despite 1g level flight from 1000ft up. Loaded 18, snake eyes to see the new bomb racks (chef kiss) decided to ripple all of them off just to see them deploy, set Jester to ripple to 28, default settings for the rest, hit the release button and immediately exploded. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideburns Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I had also noticed this, tested and found 200ms pairs 100ms singles for snakeyes and 100ms pairs 50ms singles for AIRS was min safe ripple time (if I recall correctly), mk20 didn't care. Wondered what the real life release settings permit, anyone know the relevant manual for F14 bomb release settings / information? Ryzen 5800x@5Ghz | 96gb DDR4 3200Mhz | Asus Rx6800xt TUF OC | 500Gb OS SSD + 1TB Gaming SSD | Asus VG27AQ | Trackhat clip | VPC WarBRD base | Thrustmaster stick and throttle (Deltasim minijoystick mod). F14 | F16 | AJS37 | F5 | Av8b | FC3 | Mig21 | FW190D9 | Huey Been playing DCS from Flanker 2.0 to present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skysurfer Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Make sure to set the fuze to nose/tail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretcode Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 I got this problem too, so I decided to test what was going on and to me looks like the problem is with the fin of the bomb. I tested several times this programming the bombs as usual but with fuze on nose so the fins wouldn't open and the bombs dropped without any issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshZeCorgi Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 Happened again, with me in the RIO seat this time. Reviewing the TACview, it seems like 2 of the snakeye bombs hit each other 20ft behind us and exploded, killing the aircraft in the process. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw10 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) Did this to me in campaign. Mission gives 6 snakeeyes and requires single low level pass to take out EWR. Kept blowing up upon release. After a little investigation I found it happens when Ripple Quantity is set greater than 4. Anything up to 4 is fine. Guess the rack eject sequence doesn’t like lots of bombs. So workaround is to set Ripple Quantity to 4 and do multiple pickles. Open beta 2.7.4 On 6/24/2021 at 6:35 AM, secretcode said: I got this problem too, so I decided to test what was going on and to me looks like the problem is with the fin of the bomb. I tested several times this programming the bombs as usual but with fuze on nose so the fins wouldn't open and the bombs dropped without any issues. For retard bomb like snakeeyes you need tail fuse; else the retard won’t activate. So set fuse as N/T. Edited August 2, 2021 by paulw10 Dcs version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw10 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 And here's a bug report ... hope this helps. Bug: aircraft destroyed on Snakeeye release Can I reproduce it 100%: yes If not 100%, how often out of 10: 10/10 How to reproduce/ description: Equip 2 x 3 mk82 snakeeye (statons 4 and 5) Set Ripple Quantity to 6 (anything more than 4) Select A/G Master Arm Fly straight and level at 500knots Weapon release [aircraft destroyed] DCS Version: OpenBeta 2.7.4.9847 System Specs: CPU i5 10600k GPU 2060Super 8GB 32GB RAM SSD 970evo OS: Win10 Peripherals: Joystick: Warthog HOTAS Throttle: Warthog HOTAS Pedals: LOGITECH PRO Others: N/A Headtracker: Smoothtrack/Opentrack Mission File: see attachment Log: n/a Track: see attachment Video/ Screenshots: n/a. Mods: none f-14b snakeeye ripple test.trk f-14b snakeeye ripple test.miz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sLYFa Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Thats a result of ordnance colliding midair due to insufficient ripple interval. Increase the ripple timer and you will be good. 1 1 i5-8600k @4.9Ghz, 2080ti , 32GB@2666Mhz, 512GB SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw10 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 15 hours ago, sLYFa said: Thats a result of ordnance colliding midair due to insufficient ripple interval. Increase the ripple timer and you will be good. Thanks. I thought about that after I posted. There’s obviously a relationship between speed, spacing, etc. I was thinking of an experiment to find the limits for what works and what doesn’t. Has anyone done it before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggus Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Vaguely recall a 100ms delay working for me a month or so ago. I didn't experiment much, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurts Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 hours ago, paulw10 said: Thanks. I thought about that after I posted. There’s obviously a relationship between speed, spacing, etc. I was thinking of an experiment to find the limits for what works and what doesn’t. Has anyone done it before? Someone previously found 100ms works for AIR and 200ms works for Snakeeyes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulw10 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 28 minutes ago, Spurts said: Someone previously found 100ms works for AIR and 200ms works for Snakeeyes Thanks again. That’s seriously helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideburns Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 6/17/2021 at 2:32 PM, Sideburns said: I had also noticed this, tested and found 200ms pairs 100ms singles for snakeyes and 100ms pairs 50ms singles for AIRS was min safe ripple time (if I recall correctly), mk20 didn't care. Wondered what the real life release settings permit, anyone know the relevant manual for F14 bomb release settings / information? These were the settings, it does matter which variant of bomb you use and if you are dropping singly or in pairs. 2 Ryzen 5800x@5Ghz | 96gb DDR4 3200Mhz | Asus Rx6800xt TUF OC | 500Gb OS SSD + 1TB Gaming SSD | Asus VG27AQ | Trackhat clip | VPC WarBRD base | Thrustmaster stick and throttle (Deltasim minijoystick mod). F14 | F16 | AJS37 | F5 | Av8b | FC3 | Mig21 | FW190D9 | Huey Been playing DCS from Flanker 2.0 to present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurts Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 That was the one! Thanks @Sideburns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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