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I saw a few videos now on youtube where the pilot can change to a more detailed map, so to say "zoom in",

When I use the right scale knob I just get a black picture instead of the more detailed map.

 

How do we get this to work?

 

Example of a video where he zooms in:

https://youtu.be/F4vRTTm9jmw

 

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Last night, at some areas of the map (I think it was around Beslan) I got black screen too.

But for example around Kutaisi, I got detailed view.

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As I understand It will depend on if there is a zoom texture for that part of the map. Same for the planes with moving maps, If you Zoom in to much it will go black sometimes.

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Yep same here. Black picture. Syria, Instant Action mission fire range. 

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Everywhere I've flown on the Syria map has it go black when zoomed in. The Caucuses seems to work fine. I haven't tried NTTR or Persian Gulf yet.

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1 hour ago, Devrim said:

Last night, at some areas of the map (I think it was around Beslan) I got black screen too.

But for example around Kutaisi, I got detailed view.


What I noticed, for some maps (or parts) it works for some black screen, perhaps EA ....
 

1 hour ago, Sheepy said:

As I understand It will depend on if there is a zoom texture for that part of the map. Same for the planes with moving maps, If you Zoom in to much it will go black sometimes.


Here you have only 2 size, normal picture of map and closer.


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I'm sorry if this was asked before, but maybe someone knows:


1. Would pilots IRL replace maps (on the "moving map" device) during the flight? Seems bothersome a bit (though doable, I guess).
2. How come the plotter aligns automatically when you change scale? You can check this even if one of the maps is all black, doesn't matter. Fly away from the plotter's center position, switch scale back and forth and the plotter jumps.

It just... how can such a device work like this? It looks like a simple (smart but simple) plotter driven by DISS, nothing else.

 

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I have found something even more strange in the instant action mission for Hind, the one where you have to provide air support for troops advancing on the H4 airbase on the Syria map. When I switch the map zoom, I can see zoomed view for just a bit of second, and then the map goes black.


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12 hours ago, JetJake76 said:

I have found something even more strange in the instant action mission for Hind, the on where you have to provide air support for troops advancing on the H4 airbase on the Syria map. When I switch the map zoom, I can see zoomed view for just a bit of second, ant then the map goes black.

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I suspect that's because it first zooms in on the regular map as a placeholder, and then tries and fails to load the proper zoomed in one.

And yes, IRL the pilot would have paper maps cut into appropriate squares, and when reaching the edge of one, would swap them out by hand and reset the pointer. I suspect most of the time the map would be prepared to show just the relevant mission area, though, as to avoid messing with it. The scale would also be set at the start of the mission, to match the area in question, and then left alone for the rest of it.

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On 7/10/2022 at 12:43 PM, Dragon1-1 said:

I suspect that's because it first zooms in on the regular map as a placeholder, and then tries and fails to load the proper zoomed in one.

And yes, IRL the pilot would have paper maps cut into appropriate squares, and when reaching the edge of one, would swap them out by hand and reset the pointer. I suspect most of the time the map would be prepared to show just the relevant mission area, though, as to avoid messing with it. The scale would also be set at the start of the mission, to match the area in question, and then left alone for the rest of it.

Depends, there’s a section in the manual for using the map. Tells pilots how to cut the right shaped pieces, align them, and best practices in changing them. It says if you have a landmark to use as an “alignment,” you can change it however you want. I’m sure some could use the large 220 km wide map for main flight, find a landmark near the edge, then change to the smaller 44 km map for final leg. Up to how much work the pilot is willing to do lol 

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